2007 Awards - Sports Coupe/Vert under $50K

[JYODER240]

And why is everyone voting for the Elise?!? That's a pathetic daily car compared to these other choices...?

Because it's a better sports coupe/vert than any other choice here

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

The Lotus is the pure track car,but the Vette outlapped it at VIR.? I vote Vette!

[JYODER240]

The Lotus is the pure track car,but the Vette outlapped it at VIR.? I vote Vette!

Lap times don't mean much.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Lap times don't mean much.

But that seems to be evryones reason for wanting the Lotus.It's 'pose to be one of the best track cars for the money and thats why it has so few features.But a Vette with leather,navi,and a million watt stereo(that you can drive daily) will still outlap it.So where is the justification in buying the Exige?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Maybe everyone should just drive go karts to work. 

[SVT_Power]

Why not stick a few rockets behind a truck and set the fastest lap time? That doesn't mean much

[ro51092]

Why not stick a few rockets behind a truck and set the fastest lap time? That doesn't mean much

Because you couldn't set the fastest lap time. Lap times are important, because they are a combination of the handling, and the speed of the car.

[Onslaught]

Maybe everyone should just drive go karts to work.?

I have one and if I could legally drive it on the road I would take it to work. Unfortunately I'd have to stop and put gas in it from time to time.

[Onslaught]

Because you couldn't set the fastest lap time. Lap times are important, because they are a combination of the handling, and the speed of the car.

If you're racing then lap times are important. If you want an extremely light weight car that has a particular fell to on the normal roads then lap times are meaningless. I could give two shits about statistics of a car as long as it's fun. Unless I was going to put it one a track and run it against other cars.

[SVT666]

I love how lap times "don't mean much" unless it's their car that is faster.

[JYODER240]

But that seems to be evryones reason for wanting the Lotus.It's 'pose to be one of the best track cars for the money and thats why it has so few features.But a Vette with leather,navi,and a million watt stereo(that you can drive daily) will still outlap it.So where is the justification in buying the Exige?

Exatcly how many people to you think competitively race their Elises? At most they'll use it for an HPDE or an open track day. They buy an Elise because it's more composed, pure and fun to drive than a Vette.

[JYODER240]

I love how lap times "don't mean much" unless it's their car that is faster.

who said that?

[nickdrinkwater]

A5. 

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I love how lap times "don't mean much" unless it's their car that is faster.

Oh so true! 

[Raza]

But that seems to be evryones reason for wanting the Lotus.It's 'pose to be one of the best track cars for the money and thats why it has so few features.But a Vette with leather,navi,and a million watt stereo(that you can drive daily) will still outlap it.So where is the justification in buying the Exige?

It's not about the fastest lap times.  It's about the highest level of involvement a driver can have with a car. 

[Eye of the Tiger]

The Lotus very well could be the best "sport coupe/verty" under $50k.
If you want to argue about using it as a commuter, stick it in a thread entitled: "Best Daily Driver". S2000 will win. 

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

It's not about the fastest lap times.? It's about the highest level of involvement a driver can have with a car.?

Don't you think the Vette is highly involving to drive? 

[Onslaught]

I love how lap times "don't mean much" unless it's their car that is faster.

I drive a MX-5. Power and 0-60 and top speed aren't important to me. I'm also an RX-8 fan, and that car will get killed by it's competitors in the same categories. I want small, extremely light weight and a go cart like feel to a car.
Now I understand the others don't feel the same way as I do about that stuff so they should get another car. But don't make a poll asking which car people would like and then get mad that people don't all pick the same car you would.
And if you think you can find a post I've ever made that had lot's of performance numbers and track times as my reasoning of thinking one car is better than another then good luck.

[JYODER240]

Oh so true!?

again who is saying that?

[SVT666]

I drive a MX-5. Power and 0-60 and top speed aren't important to me. I'm also an RX-8 fan, and that car will get killed by it's competitors in the same categories. I want small, extremely light weight and a go cart like feel to a car.
Now I understand the others don't feel the same way as I do about that stuff so they should get another car. But don't make a poll asking which car people would like and then get mad that people don't all pick the same car you would.

If you can show me a post from myself getting mad that people weren't picking the same car as me, I'll give you a million bucks.

And if you think you can find a post I've ever made that had lot's of performance numbers and track times as my reasoning of thinking one car is better than another then good luck.

Show me where I called you out.  Good luck.

[J86]

I dunno...sports coupes don't do it for me, I need more space!

[Raza]

Don't you think the Vette is highly involving to drive? 

I do.  I also think a Porsche Boxster is incredibly involving to drive.  But it's a scale.  Even journalists have reckoned that the Elise S is even better to drive than the standard Elise, despite being down 60bhp or so. 

[MexicoCityM3]

I do.? I also think a Porsche Boxster is incredibly involving to drive.? But it's a scale.? Even journalists have reckoned that the Elise S is even better to drive than the standard Elise, despite being down 60bhp or so.?

How much is a Boxster in the U.S.? Is it over 50k? The Elise is definitely a better track car, but I'd take a Boxster over it as an only car every time.

[Raza]

How much is a Boxster in the U.S.? Is it over 50k? The Elise is definitely a better track car, but I'd take a Boxster over it as an only car every time.

A standard Boxster starts at around 45K.  My S was about 61.  I think Road and Track had a long termer which was about 80. 

So it runs the scale.  The personalization options are crazy; 8 grand brakes, body colored roll bars, body colored seatbelts, crests in seatbacks, carbon fiber interior trim; et al. 

You could spend 90-100 if you tick every box. 

[MexicoCityM3]

A standard Boxster starts at around 45K.? My S was about 61.? I think Road and Track had a long termer which was about 80.?

So it runs the scale.? The personalization options are crazy; 8 grand brakes, body colored roll bars, body colored seatbelts, crests in seatbacks, carbon fiber interior trim; et al.?

You could spend 90-100 if you tick every box.?

I have been visiting Porsche's configurator recently. This is what I'd get:

- Boxster S (the extra power is worth it)
- PASM
- Wind Blocker
- Basic Sport Chrono
- Short shift kit
- Heated seats
- Sport seats
- Sports (shorter diameter) 3 radius steering wheel.

It comes out to 74K here in Mexico. I am between this and a Z4M Roadster (67K here fully loaded) as a replacement for the MINI possibly for 2008.

[Raza]

Sports steering wheel? 

Interesting.  How much is that? 

[MexicoCityM3]

Sports steering wheel??

Interesting.? How much is that??

Around US$400.

[Raza]

Around US$400.

Interesting.  If that's available up here, then I'll look into it.  I always felt the steering wheel was just a little too big. 

[heelntoe]

should be an easy enough install.

now that i think about it. a detachable steering would be a very good theft deterrent. i'm going to look into it.

[Raza]

should be an easy enough install.

now that i think about it. a detachable steering would be a very good theft deterrent. i'm going to look into it.

In America, a stickshift is a good theft deterrent!