11 Months...

[2o6]

The fit is frugal, and albit slow, is fun for what it is.



What about an A3?

9-3?


9-2x?

New Impreza?

SX4?

[Raza]

The fit is frugal, and albit slow, is fun for what it is.



What about an A3?

9-3?


9-2x?

New Impreza?

SX4?

Why would I buy the A3?  The 2.0T is just a GTI.  I'd rather have the GTI.  Can't afford a new 9-3, they don't sell the 9-2X (doesn't get good enough gas mileage anyway), wouldn't touch the new Subaru Dented Corolla Lookalike, can't afford it, doesn't get good enough gas mileage as a WRX, standard model's nothing special compared to anything else, don't like it as much as the Rabbit, isn't as practical, and the SX4, you must be joking?  Similar price to the Rabbit, nearly 30bhp less, and there are no advantages to buying over a Rabbit.

[2o6]

Vibe GT? 180 HP....

[Vinsanity]

how about something like this

[Eye of the Tiger]

Vibe GT? 180 HP....

The first ones had 180hp, but then Toyota realized it wasn't being lame enough, and lowered it to like 150 or something stupid.

[Raza]

Vibe GT? 180 HP....

Explain the advantages of the Vibe over a Rabbit.  I have no idea how it will stand up, if it's identical to a Matrix than it probably doesn't drive so well, and it's more expensive than the Rabbit similarly optioned.

[2o6]

Explain the advantages of the Vibe over a Rabbit.  I have no idea how it will stand up, if it's identical to a Matrix than it probably doesn't drive so well, and it's more expensive than the Rabbit similarly optioned.

MPG's.

[Raza]

MPG's.

I'm not going to be miserable to save $10 a month.  A Mini would get the same or better MPG but would actually be fun. 

Besides the only Vibe on Pontiac's website is more expensive than the Rabbit and makes 126bhp. 

Here's what C&D had to say about the Vibe:
"Even with the standard 130-hp engine, the path gets snaky under full power. There are no smiles in this car as it's equipped (it could have had the same 180-hp engine as the Matrix, and more tenacious tires)."

"In concept, this is a Corolla with a high roof."  (Doesn't bode well)

They don't even talk about handling or driver enjoyment.

[2o6]

Eh. The MINI seems to be the prime choice, even if it isn't a cooperS.

[Raza]

Eh. The MINI seems to be the prime choice, even if it isn't a cooperS.

I don't like the R56.

[Vinsanity]

does it have to be new? the 2006 quattro I posted is similarly priced, has a better warranty, and will depreciate less than a new GTI.

[Raza]

does it have to be new? the 2006 quattro I posted is similarly priced, has a better warranty, and will depreciate less than a new GTI.

This thread is specifically about new cars that I might be able to afford (and honestly, I can't afford the GTI or MS3, really).  Used cars are such a quagmire it's best not to bother with it for now.

[omicron]

You really need the Golf GT to be sold there. Are there any plans for a US launch?

[Raza]

You really need the Golf GT to be sold there. Are there any plans for a US launch?

I doubt it.  Most Americans would complain about the 1.4 being too small. 

[TheIntrepid]

What you need, Raza, is a Corolla XRS.

[Raza]

What you need, Raza, is a Corolla XRS.

They don't sell it anymore.

[TheIntrepid]

They don't sell it anymore.

[Raza]

Toyota's website doesn't list it.

[TheIntrepid]

Toyota's website doesn't list it.

It will in a few weeks.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Oh my, is that a Camry XRS!?

[CJ]

Why is it so ugly?

[JYODER240]

Why is it so ugly?

because it's a Camry

[MX793]

because it's a Camry

No, that one's a Corolla.

[JYODER240]

yeah, that's what I meant. Just typed Camry for some reason.

[the Teuton]

Is Toyota trying to see how ugly and bland they can make cars until they stop selling as many?  I bet the bosses in Japan just laugh and say "Stupid Americans" to each other as frequently as they say Konichiwa.  Maybe they utter them in the same sentence as they see each other for morning coffee breaks...

Maybe they drink so much sake that they just don't care, or the have sake keg stands in the office before going off to design new cars.  But damn, all the new Toyotas, sans the FJ, are downright fugly.

[Raghavan]

It looks like the front end looks like it was filled up with helium.

[the Teuton]

Maybe Toyota's afraid that some passion would help slow down sales.  That's why we get these fugboxes instead of the Aurion and other cooler cars.  Hell, they even had a shot to make the Matrix cool-looking, but they failed at that, too.

[CALL_911]

Maybe Toyota's afraid that some passion would help slow down sales.  That's why we get these fugboxes instead of the Aurion and other cooler cars.  Hell, they even had a shot to make the Matrix cool-looking, but they failed at that, too.

Is the Aurion really that much cooler than the Camry? I certainly wouldn't consider it cool, sans the TRD version, which is alright.

[omicron]

Is the Aurion really that much cooler than the Camry? I certainly wouldn't consider it cool, sans the TRD version, which is alright.

No, it really isn't. The bits of the car you see from behind the wheel are the same as you see when driving a Camry.

Then again, a base Commodore Omega or Falcon XT is fairly bland, too.

[CALL_911]

No, it really isn't. The bits of the car you see from behind the wheel are the same as you see when driving a Camry.

Exactly.