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[JYODER240]

The same way Psilos explained that the Escort can be fun, the LS430 and the Camry can also be.

I guess school buses are fun too. You can drive them at the limit. Look you can drive a Camry or LS or whatever floaty boring car you want at the limit and yes there will be more excitement than driving that same car through a school zone. But the truth is compared to cars in general or cars in their class they are completly uninvolving, uncommunicative, and disconnected from the road. If you think an LS430 or a Camry is fun to drive you either have no idea what you're talking about, have very low standards, or both.

[Rupert]

I guess school buses are fun too. You can drive them at the limit. Look you can drive a Camry or LS or whatever floaty boring car you want at the limit and yes there will be more excitement than driving that same car through a school zone. But the truth is compared to cars in general or cars in their class they are completly uninvolving, uncommunicative, and disconnected from the road. If you think an LS430 or a Camry is fun to drive you either have no idea what you're talking about, have very low standards, or both.

Stop comparing.

[TheIntrepid]

If you think an LS430 or a Camry is fun to drive you either have no idea what you're talking about, have very low standards, or both.

That's just as stereotypical and insulting a statement as me saying that you are a dumbass because you're from Ohio.

[93JC]

Reminds me of a joke I heard. "Who's dumber, a Michigander or Ohioan?"

"Who cares? They're both dumbasses."

[TheIntrepid]

Reminds me of a joke I heard. "Who's dumber, a Michigander or Ohioan?"

"Who cares? They're both dumbasses."

[the Teuton]

Does living in Pennsylvania exempt me from that kind of ridicule?

[93JC]

...


No.

[The Pirate]

Does living in Pennsylvania exempt me from that kind of ridicule?

No, that's even worse.  Something happens to people when they move to Pennsylvania, and it's not good...

[the Teuton]

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No.

Does it help that I'm registered to vote in Pennsylvania?

[the Teuton]

No, that's even worse.  Something happens to people when they move to Pennsylvania, and it's not good...

I'm never going to win, am I?

[TheIntrepid]

Does living in Pennsylvania exempt me from that kind of ridicule?

Yes, because you're not a trolling dumbass like Yoder.

[JYODER240]

That's just as stereotypical and insulting a statement as me saying that you are a dumbass because you're from Ohio.

Sorry but it's true.

[JYODER240]

Yes, because you're not a trolling dumbass like Yoder.

I'm not trolling, I'm telling the truth. I said LS430's and Camrys are boring to drive(which they are). You're the one who constantly trolls for Toyota. Moreover are you that insecure about me critising an inanidimate object that you own? What do you want me to say Camrys are fun to drive? LS430s are fun to drive?

I honestly can't believe that I'm having the arguement over if LS's and Camry's are fun to drive. It's like arguing if a Veyron is fast.

[TheIntrepid]

I'm not trolling, I'm telling the truth. I said LS430's and Camrys are boring to drive(which they are). You're the one who constantly trolls for Toyota. Moreover are you that insecure about me critising an inanidimate object that you own? What do you want me to say Camrys are fun to drive? LS430s are fun to drive?

I honestly can't believe that I'm having the arguement over if LS's and Camry's are fun to drive. It's like arguing if a Veyron is fast.

At this point it has nothing to do with what I own or what you own. No, it's not because I own a Camry or even that you're insulting CAMRIES and Lexuses anymore. It's just annoying that you have this wrong prejudice against a certain manufacturer (hypocritical, since this is the manufacturer that employs your ungrateful ass). At this point in the argument it doesn't even matter that it's Toyotas you're insulting, you're just becoming like Wimmer with his Lexus trolling now.

[JYODER240]

At this point it has nothing to do with what I own or what you own. No, it's not because I own a Camry or even that you're insulting CAMRIES and Lexuses anymore. It's just annoying that you have this wrong prejudice against a certain manufacturer (hypocritical, since this is the manufacturer that employs your ungrateful ass). At this point in the argument it doesn't even matter that it's Toyotas you're insulting, you're just becoming like Wimmer with his Lexus trolling now.

How am I insulting them for telling the truth? They are not fun to drive. I think It was C&D who called the Camry the "anti-sports sedan". It's not some bias that i'm coming up with, it's the truth and it's well known. I've heard you say countless times that the Camry isn't fun to drive. I'm not bashing Lexus or Toyota. I've said that they make good appliances to get you from A to B. BTW I'm hypocritical for critising Lexus b/c I work for a Lexus dealership? That is honestly one of the dumbest things you've ever said. 

[TheIntrepid]

According to you, everything I say is "the dumbest thing I've ever said". According to nearly everyone else in this thread, your mindless trolling is dumb. Either way, I don't see the point of arguing any longer. This is my last post regarding this in this thread. See you later, Jordan.

[CJ]

Yoder wins, you don't.  Yoder has a very good point.  A Camry or an LS430 just aren't fun vehicles.  Sure, you can have a little bit of "fun" in them, but that's about it.  Trep, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

[Raghavan]

I think that Yoder is generally right, but i also think that you can have fun in any car that you want to...

[CJ]

And that's true.  It's a different kind of fun, though.

[TheIntrepid]

Yoder wins, you don't.  Yoder has a very good point.  A Camry or an LS430 just aren't fun vehicles.  Sure, you can have a little bit of "fun" in them, but that's about it.  Trep, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

How do you figure? You're not making any sense, bro, and it appears that you're sucking up to Yoder.  

[Laconian]

Yoder wins, you don't.  Yoder has a very good point.  A Camry or an LS430 just aren't fun vehicles.  Sure, you can have a little bit of "fun" in them, but that's about it.  Trep, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

Finding a vehicle fun makes the vehicle fun TO YOU.

[The Pirate]

Yoder wins, you don't.  Yoder has a very good point.  A Camry or an LS430 just aren't fun vehicles.  Sure, you can have a little bit of "fun" in them, but that's about it.  Trep, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

Don't be an ass kisser.  Yoder has made some good observations, and from the stance of a purist, he does have a point.  That, however, is hardly any reason for you to erringly jump in and declare a winner. 

[Raghavan]

Don't be an ass kisser.  Yoder has made some good observations, and from the stance of a purist, he does have a point.  That, however, is hardly any reason for you to jump in and declare a winner. 

pwned.
You can have fun in any car though. For example, the Accord i drive is pretty darned boring to just drive around in but the Z is a ton of fun (haven't drive one, just speculating), but when pushed to the limit, the Accord can be fun (done it too). Not as fun as the Z at the limit, but fun nonetheless.

[Raza]

90% of Pennsylvania can get flushed down a toilet without me caring.

[J86]

i drove an Accord today...

[TheIntrepid]

i drove an Accord today...

I drove an Intrepid!

[Onslaught]

2007 MX-5
2007 Ford Expedition
Two new Lincoln Town Cars (boats)
2006 Nissan Sentra
1995 Miata M Edition

[JYODER240]

According to you, everything I say is "the dumbest thing I've ever said". According to nearly everyone else in this thread, your mindless trolling is dumb. Either way, I don't see the point of arguing any longer. This is my last post regarding this in this thread. See you later, Jordan.

Trep, you're being absolutly rediculous. Please show how I am "mindlessly trolling" the things I am critizing Toyota/Lexus for in this thread are no worse than what several other people are saying in the other thread about Toyota. In fact they're the same criticisms. That they aren't involving or fun to drive. I'm not trolling against them, in fact in the past I have defended Lexus on this forum. I'm being fair, working for a Lexus dealership and critizing their cars doesn't not make me a hypocrite. Does that mean I can say nothing but good things about them even if they are not true? It's a wide held belief that Toyota's and Lexus' are not fun to drive. I've heard you say several times that the Camry isn't fun to drive (ironic that you're calling me a hypocrite). I said the LS430 is quite, luxurious, and relieable. That's true. I said that it is uninvolving and it's not fun to drive. That's also true. I said that if you take them to their limit they are going to be more fun that a normal drive down the road but in general they are going to be less fun than cars in their class or cars as a whole. You are the one being a troll. I'm critizing them for reasons that anyone with a respectable opinion on the subject would agree with. I don't see why you're being so immature about this.

[BMWDave]

This is a fairly silly argument, so let's leave it at that guys. 

[BMWDave]

2007 MX-5
2007 Ford Expedition
Two new Lincoln Town Cars (boats)
2006 Nissan Sentra
1995 Miata M Edition

How did you find the NC compared to your NA?