Saw a new Accord sedan in the flesh

[SVT666]

But it's huge for a sedan with a 4 banger.  Find me another sedan that weighs that much with a 4 cylinder engine.

Ford Taurus - 3650 lbs (V6)
Toyota Camry - 3307 lbs (4 banger)
Chevrolet Impala - 3555 lbs (V6)
Hyundai Azera - 3629 lbs (V6)
Ford Fusion - 3158 lbs (4 banger)
Ford Fusion - 3280 lbs (V6)

The only large sedan that weighs less that I could find is the Ford Fusion.  I didn't realize it was so light.  It's too bad Ford didn't make it sportier with that weight.

You know, if large sedans can weight so little, why the hell do performance cars weigh so much nowadays?

[the Teuton]

Mind you, I know the Accord is a bigger car than a lot of them, but it's being powered by a 4 cylinder.  While 200 hp is nothing to sneeze about, it's the torque I'm concerned with in the weight class.

[etypeJohn]

Ford Taurus - 3650 lbs (V6)
Toyota Camry - 3307 lbs (4 banger)
Chevrolet Impala - 3555 lbs (V6)
Hyundai Azera - 3629 lbs (V6)
Ford Fusion - 3158 lbs (4 banger)
Ford Fusion - 3280 lbs (V6)

The only large sedan that weighs less that I could find is the Ford Fusion.  I didn't realize it was so light.  It's too bad Ford didn't make it sportier with that weight.

You know, if large sedans can weight so little, why the hell do performance cars weigh so much nowadays?

That 3300# was for the barest version I could find.  The EX-L 4dr Sedan w/Navigation (2.4L 4cyl 5A) weighs 3,446#.  And the Accord is classed as a midsized sedan

[red_shift]

It doesn't look near as upscale as the current car

Oh boy. And I absolutely hate the looks of my Accord.

[TheIntrepid]

Oh boy. And I absolutely hate the looks of my Accord.

[SVT666]

That 3300# was for the barest version I could find.  The EX-L 4dr Sedan w/Navigation (2.4L 4cyl 5A) weighs 3,446#.  And the Accord is classed as a midsized sedan

Technically, the Accord is Large now.  IIRC the interior volume is about 0.1 cu.ft. over the minimum for large car classification.

[Raza]

Technically, the Accord is Large now.  IIRC the interior volume is about 0.1 cu.ft. over the minimum for large car classification.

Holy shit dude.  That's ridiculous.

[Vinsanity]

Technically, the Accord is Large now.  IIRC the interior volume is about 0.1 cu.ft. over the minimum for large car classification.

Well, remember that the Chevy Malibu Maxx is also classified as a large car by interior volume standards.

The new Accord, though, is just 2 inches shy in overall length compared to the Chrysler 300

[ifcar]

The Sonata is also large by interior volume standards, and the Elantra is midsize.

[Raghavan]

I think 6 gen base Accords are 2700... Hard to believe it gained so much weight.

[etypeJohn]

Technically, the Accord is Large now.  IIRC the interior volume is about 0.1 cu.ft. over the minimum for large car classification.

Then Edmunds got it wrong.  They still class it as a midsized car.  Regardless its not very good looking IMHO.

[ifcar]

Then Edmunds got it wrong.  They still class it as a midsized car. 

Few non-government auto authorities use the EPA size classification.

[TBR]

It's 3-4 inches longer and bigger in every dimension and heavier thant he 2007.  Turning radius is almost 2 feet larger also.  Stripper 4 Cyl manuals are tipping the scales at about 3300 pounds

Really, I saw one parked right next to an '07 at the Honda dealer and it really didn't seem that much larger. The turning radius is definitely a bummer though.

[ifcar]

Of course, while 3 inches is a significant increase by automotive standards, it's still a difference you can measure with your thumb and forefinger.

[Morris Minor]

It's 3-4 inches longer and bigger in every dimension and heavier thant he 2007.  Turning radius is almost 2 feet larger also.  Stripper 4 Cyl manuals are tipping the scales at about 3300 pounds

They pay lip service to fuel economy, low-emissions and environmental friendliness, while designing and offering ever-bigger cars.

	Accord	Acura RL
Length	194.1	193.6
Width	72.7	72.7
Wheelbase	110.2	110.2

Not good news if you are looking far a family sedan that has a little bit of a fun-to-drive spark.

[TBR]

The RL is a midsize sports sedan, what's wrong with the Accord being almost identical in size?

[Morris Minor]

The RL is a midsize sports sedan, what's wrong with the Accord being almost identical in size?

Well... it has morphed into a bit of a big, fat porker, regardless of official classification. I suppose Honda calculates that most people now want plenty of room inside for junk food bags and 64oz mega-freezie drinks, rather than chuck light, agile cars into corners.

Keen drivers must look elsewhere for a mainstream family sedan. Honda already has one in the form of the Euro-spec Accord/Acura TSX. Guess they need to decontent the Acura and stick back on the Honda badge.

[Raghavan]

Well... it has morphed into a bit of a big, fat porker. I suppose Honda calculates that most people now want plenty of room inside for bags of junk food bags and 64oz mega-freezie drinks, rather than chuck light, agile cars into corners.

Keen drivers must look elsewhere for a mainstream family sedan. Honda already has one in the form of the Euro-spec Accord/Acura TSX. Guess they need to decontent the Acura and stick back on the Honda badge.

I agree. This should have been the Acura Legend (perhaps with SH-AWD and whatnot) and the Euro Accord should have also been the US Accord.

[ifcar]

I agree. This should have been the Acura Legend (perhaps with SH-AWD and whatnot) and the Euro Accord should have also been the US Accord.

No, that would have made it a sales flop.

[Raghavan]

No, that would have made it a sales flop.

Why?

[ifcar]

Why?

Because people who buy family sedans in this country want roomy, comfortable cars? Why do you think the Camry always outsells the Accord?

[Raghavan]

Because people who buy family sedans in this country want roomy, comfortable cars? Why do you think the Camry always outsells the Accord?

Isn't this new Accord larger than the Camry?

[ifcar]

Isn't this new Accord larger than the Camry?

Indeed. Maybe they can outsell it this way.

[Morris Minor]

Indeed. Maybe they can outsell it this way.

What Toyota must do to win with the next gen Camry...

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

  

[Submariner]

Would I be crucified If I said I actually like the Accords looks?

[Raza]

Would I be crucified If I said I actually like the Accords looks?

I'm gathering my nails.

[2o6]

I think 6 gen base Accords are 2700... Hard to believe it gained so much weight.

How? The Fit is 2400LBS.........I guess the Fit isn't so fit.


If I'm right, the Cobalt weighs 2900lbs.

[280Z Turbo]

I think it looks good too.

[the Teuton]

All of these are top-of-the-line spec EX models.

1993 Accord 185.3" long, weight NA
1997 Accord 188.4", 3285 lbs.
2002 Accord 189.4", 3,329 lbs.
2007 Accord 191.1", 3,435 lbs.
2008 Accord 194.3, 3,600 lbs.

2007 Acura TSX 183.5", 3,257 lbs.