Nissan Sentra? Mitsu Lancer?

[the Teuton]

Young dude in a Small, Mod-ready car.


I don't think so.

I drive a slow-ass wagon.  Insurance isn't horrible.  In less than a year, that same wagon will have 50% more power.  My insurance will be exactly the same.

[S204STi]

The Sentra was pretty dowdy, but decent.  The Lancer was intolerable.

[2o6]

Well, you asked about the reliability the newer Corolla. You got my opinion. That doesn't mean I'm right. I'm sure it will serve you well, but not like the older ones.

A cheap interior has nothing to do with reliability.

[2o6]

The Sentra was pretty dowdy, but decent.  The Lancer was intolerable.

What was wrong with the lancer?

[CALL_911]

A cheap interior has nothing to do with reliability.

Thank you.

Did you read a word of my post?

[Raghavan]

206 WHAT ABOUT A FOCUS??

[S204STi]

What was wrong with the lancer?

I find them to be incredibly cheap for a Japanese car.  Even the Sentra was nicer to spend time in.  Just my opinion...

[2o6]

Thank you.

Did you read a word of my post?

Yes. You gave your opinion (reliability is a fact, not an opinion) on reliablilty, saying the car had a cheap interior.

[CALL_911]

Yes. You gave your opinion (reliability is a fact, not an opinion) on reliablilty, saying the car had a cheap interior.

Wow. Just wow.

I talked about build quality. Usually when something isn't built well, something breaks, hence the underlying reason for "unreliability". Toyota's build quality is not like it used to be.

[MX793]

Insurance on Civics is generally on the high side.  I actually don't think insurance on a regular Impreza would be all that bad.  WRX, sure, but not the standard Impreza (especially if you get the wagon).  However, they are quite a bit more money than most other compacts of the same vintage on the used market (because they cost more when new and have pretty good resale).

[2o6]

206 WHAT ABOUT A FOCUS??

It's on my list.


My list as follows!


Scion xA and xB
Toyota Corolla
Mitsu Lancer
Ford Focus
Dodge Neon
Saturn S-series
Saturn L-series
Nissan Altima
Honda Civic
Pontiac Vibe
Toyota Matrix
Infiniti G20
If cheap enough: Chevy Cobalt
Chrysler PT Cruiser
Mazda Protege (Prefferably Hatch)

[CALL_911]

GO PROTEGE

[Raghavan]

It's on my list.


My list as follows!


Scion xA and xB
Toyota Corolla
Mitsu Lancer
Ford Focus
Dodge Neon
Saturn S-series
Saturn L-series
Nissan Altima
Honda Civic
Pontiac Vibe
Toyota Matrix
Infiniti G20
If cheap enough: Chevy Cobalt
Chrysler PT Cruiser
Mazda Protege (Prefferably Hatch)

They're pretty cheap and the best bang for the buck you can buy.

[2o6]

Wow. Just wow.

I talked about build quality. Usually when something isn't built well, something breaks, hence the underlying reason for "unreliability". Toyota's build quality is not like it used to be.

So the car is unrelibale? I still fail to see how a cheap interior will make the car unreliable.

[2o6]

They're pretty cheap and the best bang for the buck you can buy.

Which Car? The Cobalt?

[CALL_911]

So the car is unrelibale? I still fail to see how a cheap interior will make the car unreliable.

I'm not even going to bother.

[2o6]

GO PROTEGE

If it came down to the wire, I'd take the G20 or the Protege.

[CALL_911]

If it came down to the wire, I'd take the G20 or the Protege.

The G20 seems like a fun car.

[the Teuton]

An Impreza would rape most of those cars.

[CALL_911]

An Impreza would rape most of those cars.

A 2.5RS would most certainly.

[the Teuton]

A 2.5RS would most certainly.

I never said anything about a straight line.

[CALL_911]

I never said anything about a straight line.

I agreed with you.

Who cares, the thing would pwn in the twisties, and it's the most fun and athletic.

[the Teuton]

I agreed with you.

Who cares, the thing would pwn in the twisties, and it's the most fun and athletic.

See your sig?  I can imagine doing that with an Impreza.  I can't imagine doing it with most of the other cars on that list.

[CALL_911]

See your sig?  I can imagine doing that with an Impreza.  I can't imagine doing it with most of the other cars on that list.

Wouldn't it understeer?

[Raza]

It's on my list.


My list as follows!


Scion xA and xB
Toyota Corolla
Mitsu Lancer
Ford Focus
Dodge Neon
Saturn S-series
Saturn L-series
Nissan Altima
Honda Civic
Pontiac Vibe
Toyota Matrix
Infiniti G20
If cheap enough: Chevy Cobalt
Chrysler PT Cruiser
Mazda Protege (Prefferably Hatch)

I've crossed out the cars I wouldn't even consider.  And before you ask why I got rid of the Matrix and not the Vibe I might as well go ahead and tell you.  The Matrix is a Toyota, so even though the cars are mechanically identical, the Matrix will have a higher resale value, probably pushing it out of your range.  I bolded the Focus because that would be my first choice (ZX3) and the Protege would probably be my second.  I don't know enough about the Saturn S or L series cars to recommend them either way, but what about the Ion? 

[Raghavan]

Which Car? The Cobalt?

Focus. Besides the silly interior, it's an awesome car.

[Raghavan]

Wouldn't it understeer?

Yes. Two ton doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Raza]

Wouldn't it understeer?

No.  Subarus never understeer unless you want them to. 

[the Teuton]

Wouldn't it understeer?

They're surprisingly neutral cars.  It's all about how you flick it into a turn and on what kind of surface.

[the Teuton]

Yes. Two ton doesn't know what he's talking about.

Have you ever driven a Subie?