Hemi's next car...

[Tave]

Uh, you're contemplating cars as old as 20 years?

Civic it, and be done with it. Your psyche needs the rest I think.

The Civic isn't any cheaper to start with than the Focus, and it's not much cheaper than a Mustang. It also holds its value better than either of them, which means he'll have to settle for an OLDER Civic compared to his other choices.

Quite frankly, I think Civics make up some of the worst used-car deals. They're just too damn expensive.

[Vinsanity]

Quite frankly, I think Civics make up some of the worst used-car deals. They're just too damn expensive.

not if you plan to sell it again

[SVT666]

Leak down test won't spot a bad bearing (which has stung you twice in the last month or so).

No, but a leak down test will tell me if it's going to need a rebuild or if it's a modifiable car.

[Tave]

not if you plan to sell it again

Which is why they're a great car to buy new. I have a feeling flipping this car isn't a priority for Hemi.

[SVT666]

It's not.  If I get a Mustang I'm keeping it so that it can eventually be passed down to one of my kids.  If I buy a Focus, Civic, etc. the car will be driven until it dies.  I drove the Sunfire until it died twice.

[280Z Turbo]

Go older, save money, and mod more.

I don't think that's how it works.

My Z is just now getting to be reliable. When you buy an old car, you get old ball joints, old trans, old water pump, old seals, old brake calipers, old shocks, etc. You can't replace all of them all at once (although sometimes it feels like you have to). And the replacement parts you get often don't last as long as the OEM stuff.

Why do you think I got a 2002 Ford Focus? I didn't want the headaches of all those old parts on a daily driver.

[CALL_911]

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951 anyone?

[Raghavan]

Very true.  I will most likely end up with a Mustang in the 1996 to 2000 range depending on the mileage and purchase price.  I like the looks of this one:

1997 Mustang GT

The mileage is a little high, but as long as it passes a leak down test it's a good car to go with.

I've always wondered why it's called "mileage" if you're talking about kilometers.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I don't think that's how it works.

My Z is just now getting to be reliable. When you buy an old car, you get old ball joints, old trans, old water pump, old seals, old brake calipers, old shocks, etc. You can't replace all of them all at once (although sometimes it feels like you have to). And the replacement parts you get often don't last as long as the OEM stuff.

Why do you think I got a 2002 Ford Focus? I didn't want the headaches of all those old parts on a daily driver.

Did you read the rest of my post?

I clearly stated that money would have to be spent to bring it up to solid condition(things like ball joints, tie rods,etc). I believe that you would have to replace these things in either an 91 mustang or a 97 mustang. Anything over 10 years normally needs these things, unless it is a highly pampered low mileage car which i think is unlikely in the case of a 10 year old mustang(people bought them and drove them daily).

[JYODER240]

You haven't really driven many "sporty" cars outside of Mustangs. I'd atleast go test drive something different.

There are more, but my memory is terrible.  They were either not memorable or not worth mentioning:

Up to 1969
1. 1948 Ford Pickup hot rod
2. 1951 Chevy Pickup hot rod
3. 1965 Mustang 289

1970-1979
1. 1971 Mustang Mach 1
2. 1977 Mercury Cougar 460
3. 1978 Chrysler Cordoba
4. 1979 Honda Civic 2dr hatchback (I still want one)

1980-1989
1. 1981 F-250
2. 1987 Mustang GT Cobra
3. 1988 Mustang GT Cobra
4. 1988 Camaro Z28
5. 1988 Ranger 4x4 with a 3" lift
6. 1989 Ford F-150

1990-1999
1. 1991 Mustang LX 5.0L notchback (one of my favourites)
2. 1991 F-150
3. 1991 GMC pickup
4. 1992 Ford Explorer
5. 1993 Mustang GT
6. 1993 F-250
7. 1994 Ford Explorer
8. 1996 Mustang GT
9. 1997 F-150
10. 1997 Pontiac Firebird WS6 (385 RWHP)
11. 1999 Mustang GT

2000-2007
1. 2000 Pontiac Sunfire GT
2. 2001 Mustang GT
3. 2001 SVT Cobra
4. 2002 Mustang GT
5. 2002 Subaru WRX
6. 2003 SVT Cobra
7. 2003 Mustang GT
8. 2003 Olds Alero
9. 2004 Mustang GT
10. 2005 Dodge Ram
11. 2005 F-150
12. 2005 GMC Sierra
13. 2006 Mustang GT
14. 2006 Magnum R/T
15. 2007 Mustang GT
16. 2007 Mazda3 5 door hatch
17. 2007 Mazda6 GT
18. 2007 Cobalt SS Supercharged
19. 2007 Freestyle SEL
20. 2007 Edge
21. 2007 Fusion SEL

[The Pirate]

My vote is for a '99-00 GT.

[SVT666]

You haven't really driven many "sporty" cars outside of Mustangs. I'd atleast go test drive something different.

There's not much else in the price range that speaks to me, so why would I?  Give me some cars in the Mustang's price range you think I should be interested in.

[Eye of the Tiger]

There's not much else in the price range that speaks to me, so why would I?  Give me some cars in the Mustang's price range you think I should be interested in.

Camaro.

[TheIntrepid]

[SVT666]

I don't live in Calgary anymore.

[TheIntrepid]

I don't live in Calgary anymore.

Oh. BC transit, then.

[Onslaught]

There's not much else in the price range that speaks to me, so why would I?  Give me some cars in the Mustang's price range you think I should be interested in.

We talking new or used here?

[Eye of the Tiger]

One should not ask a question if they are not willing to hear the answer.

[SVT666]

Camaro.

I shouldn't even dignify this one with a response.

Besides I can only get fairly high mileage cars or more then 12 years old for $10K.

[SVT666]

One should not ask a question if they are not willing to hear the answer.

I'm being criticized for only considering Mustangs, and I'm telling you people why it's that way.

[SVT666]

We talking new or used here?

Used.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I shouldn't even dignify this one with a response.

Besides I can only get fairly high mileage cars or more then 12 years old for $10K.

If you don't want a Camaro, then you will be stuck with something boring.
$10k? A brand spankin' new Hyundai Accent hatch, no options. If the engine blows up, it has a 10-year warranty or something like that.

[280Z Turbo]

A Camaro is too much car for him. He can only handle Ford's wimply little OHC V8 motors.

[SVT666]

Believe me I prefer the power of the Camaro and the Camaro is actually easier and cheaper to modify, but I prefer the Mustang's styling and interior packaging.  The Mustang may not be as fast, but it's most certainly the better car.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Believe me I prefer the power of the Camaro and the Camaro is actually easier and cheaper to modify, but I prefer the Mustang's styling and interior packaging.  The Mustang may not be as fast, but it's most certainly the better car.

Yup.

[280Z Turbo]

It's like saying pee smells better than barf. It's true, but it's not saying much.

[Eye of the Tiger]

 

[SVT666]

Believe what you will, but as someone who has owned a 1996 Mustang GT (400+ hp NA) and has a brother-in-law with a 1997 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 (400+ hp NA) and a 1997 Camaro SS (600+ hp NA), the Mustang is definitely the better car.  It's more comfortable, more reliable, has a usable trunk, is easier to get in and out of, has better outward visibility, and well...just plain looks better too.  Both my brother-in-laws cars are stupid fast, but they are also uncomfortable and they have that stupid catalytic converter hump in the floor.

[280Z Turbo]

Since both interiors suck, I'd go with the one with the awesome motor.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Believe what you will, but as someone who has owned a 1996 Mustang GT (400+ hp NA) and has a brother-in-law with a 1997 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 (400+ hp NA) and a 1997 Camaro SS (600+ hp NA), the Mustang is definitely the better car.  It's more comfortable, more reliable, has a usable trunk, is easier to get in and out of, has better outward visibility, and well...just plain looks better too.  Both my brother-in-laws cars are stupid fast, but they are also uncomfortable and they have that stupid catalytic converter hump in the floor.

Muscle cars aren't supposed to be comfortable, reliable, or practical...
but we all know you love Mustangs, so stop trying to rationalize it and just get one already.