Plasma TV vs LCD TV

[93JC]

CRTs FTMFW

[SVT666]

CRTs FTMFW

I know that some people believe they have better pictures then LCD or Plasma, but I have never seen one that even comes close.

[Raghavan]

I know that some people believe they have better pictures then LCD or Plasma, but I have never seen one that even comes close.

My brother's computer monitor that is CRT is very very crappy compared to the LCD monitors.

[565]

I know that some people believe they have better pictures then LCD or Plasma, but I have never seen one that even comes close.

It's not a matter of belief, CRT's inherently produce the best quality pictures period. Think CRT vs LCD monitors for gaming.  All the hardcore gamers still swear by CRT.  Don't confuse large, bright, or high resolution pictures with quality. In fact all LCD's, Plasma's, and DLP TV's, etc can only try to emulate the images that CRT's naturally produce.  CRT's have best native contrast, best response times, blackest black levels, no native resolution limitations, etc etc.  The black level for a CRT is nearly absolute (except for lingering phosphor glow from previous illumination), when a CRT displays a black screen it is actually black.  Turn off all the lights and the screen and room will look completely dark. An LCD with a black screen will still easily light up a room due to its back lit nature.  A high quality plasma displaying a black screen will still be faintly visible. The response time for CRT's are basically the time it takes for the electrons to travel the foot or so distance from the electron guns to the screen and then for the phosphors to relax.  The electron travel is measured in nanoseconds and the relax is measured in microseconds. By comparision the best LCD's are on the order of several miliseconds.  That's orders of magnitute greater. The best that flat panels can hope for is to approach the standards set by CRT's.

The reason why the CRT's you've seen don't look as good is mostly because high quality CRT's are hard to come across now, especially widescreen versions that run high def.  And because CRT's are so difficult to make larger than 40 inches (in 4:3 ratio), there's hardly a need for full 1080 unless you are sitting 1 foot away from the screen.  They are also HUGE and heavy and seen as not as trendy as before.  Thus most of the CRT's on display are in the super cheapo section.  CRT's are still the standard used by people in the entertainment industry when examining the quality of DVD's.

The last of the great consumer CRT's were probably of this generation (from 3 years ago).

http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/direct-view-tvs-crt/sony-kd-34xbr960/4505-6481_7-30787600.html?tag=prod.txt.5


I think CRT's are soon going to go the way of analoge audio turntables.  They still still deliever the best quality and will still be perferred by those who demand the best picture, but their lack of convenience will lose them the consumer market place.

[GoCougs]

Having just done the rounds on getting a new TV, and having no biases about it, LCD simply looked better to me in the 40-50" sizes - the guy at the TV shop where I bought confirmed that was generally the case. I ended up with a Toshiba 42" Regza LCD.

[S204STi]

HD projector on a grey screen, thanks.

[r0tor]

i just got a 1080p 40" Samsung LCD tv!!.... 

[Raza]

i just got a 1080p 40" Samsung LCD tv!!.... 

Nice! Now go get a PS3 and CoD4!

[280Z Turbo]

CRTs FTMFW

You are wrong, young man trying to act like an old man.

CRTs are cheaper, but that is the only real benefit.

[93JC]

That's the GREATEST benefit.

I don't really care about HDTV and all that techno-crap.

[280Z Turbo]

That's the GREATEST benefit.

I don't really care about HDTV and all that techno-crap.

It's smaller and frees up more space in small rooms.

[93JC]

Whatever, dude. Can you even get a small LCD or plasma TV? Most of the ones I see are around 3' screens, which is too big for my wall unit.

[280Z Turbo]

Whatever, dude. Can you even get a small LCD or plasma TV? Most of the ones I see are around 3' screens, which is too big for my wall unit.

Is 15" small enough?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8205417&type=product&id=1165610379139

[Raza]

Whatever, dude. Can you even get a small LCD or plasma TV? Most of the ones I see are around 3' screens, which is too big for my wall unit.

They make them computer monitor small.  I was going to buy a 20" before my dad said he'd get a 37" for me.

[93JC]

Is 15" small enough?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8205417&type=product&id=1165610379139

I want a TV, not a fucking computer monitor!

[280Z Turbo]

I want a TV, not a fucking computer monitor!

It is a TV.

[Tave]

You are wrong, young man trying to act like an old man.

CRTs are cheaper, but that is the only real benefit.

So would you care to answer any of 565's comments about CRTs? He technical outline seems to support the opposite.

[Tave]

Whatever, dude. Can you even get a small LCD or plasma TV? Most of the ones I see are around 3' screens, which is too big for my wall unit.

You should have read all the first page. Here's mine:



15 inches of digital fury. You can run it as a monitor, but it's designed as a tv. Great viewing angles, especially compared to my notebook screen.

[SVT666]

Whatever, dude. Can you even get a small LCD or plasma TV? Most of the ones I see are around 3' screens, which is too big for my wall unit.

We're buying a 21" LCD for our bedroom.

[Rich]

I bought a 720p 39.98" Samsung LCD tv a few days ago, so far it's nice.  I haven't played GT4 on it yet, but I bet I'll be impressed.

[sportyaccordy]

I just got a 46" Samsung 1080p LCD like hours ago... don't have cable yet though, lol

Next purchase will be one of those step-up DVD players.

My dad has a 50" plasma at home and it's pretty nice.

[r0tor]

viewing my camera pics on the 40" 1080p LCD is absolutely stunning!

[r0tor]

I bought a 720p 39.98" Samsung LCD tv a few days ago, so far it's nice.  I haven't played GT4 on it yet, but I bet I'll be impressed.

i just played GT4 on my 1080p and its a bit blurry... not sure if its just not enough resolution from the PS2 or the A/V cables

[565]

I just got a 46" Samsung 1080p LCD like hours ago... don't have cable yet though, lol

Next purchase will be one of those step-up DVD players.

My dad has a 50" plasma at home and it's pretty nice.

Don't let yourself get ripped off with a $60+ HDMI cable.  The price gouging on these digital cables is insane.  It's digital, the signal is either there or not there.

[sportyaccordy]

Don't let yourself get ripped off with a $60+ HDMI cable.  The price gouging on these digital cables is insane.  It's digital, the signal is either there or not there.

I paid $100 for mine

Gonna take it back, ASAP. I'm almost certain my cable provider will provide an HDMI cable with the box, and from what I'm reading the quality with component cables is the same as HDMI. Seems like marketing to me.

[Minpin]

I paid $100 for mine

[Catman]

When I bought my 50" Panasonic Plasma I compared with some LCD's and felt the plasma had a richer looking picture, particularly the blacks as suggested earlier.  I could go either way though, it wouldn't bother me.

[GoCougs]

Don't let yourself get ripped off with a $60+ HDMI cable.  The price gouging on these digital cables is insane.  It's digital, the signal is either there or not there.

That's not exactly true. HDMI will tolerate a bit of loss and still function with a supposed degrade in quality; its bailwick however is that it's not as susceptible to noise and signal loss as analog.

Regarding pricing of cables, there are the anecdotes of cable manufactuers gouging, but quality can encompass wire guage, shielding quality, and mechanical strength of the connectors.

Also, each new rev of HDMI specifies higher bandwidths and resolutions - using an HDMI 1.0 cable on an HDMI 1.3b system would be problematic. And guess which one costs more? I recommend that people do research on the cables (especially rev) before they buy them - a number of places I looked at won't take back opened cables.

[Submariner]

Nice! Now go get a XBOX360 and CoD4!

better.

[BimmerM3]

My family has a 50" Panasonic Plasma, a 42" Panasonic Plasma, and a 32" Sharp LCD. Personally I like the plasmas better. They seem to have brighter colors and darker blacks compared to the LCD. However, the Sharp is 1080p capable, though we don't have any 1080p devices (until tomorrow... Dad's getting a BluRay for Christmas).