40-page thread about a Jetta

[The Pirate]

I'll see if I can find out more about the B3 Passat springs. Supposedly, they will lift the rear of a MK2 Jetta 4", but I don't know how different my Mk3 is.

Dude, 4" is a lot.  That could screw up a lot of stuff with tire wear/suspension geometry, etc. 

[Eye of the Tiger]

Dude, 4" is a lot.  That could screw up a lot of stuff with tire wear/suspension geometry, etc. 

I figure if I got those I'd just cut a coil off, since the rear springs have a large number of coils close together.
The fronts, on the other hand, have just a few coils with fairly wide spacing. My options are a VR6 spring, which is just slightly stiffer, maybe worth 0.5", and/or a rubber ring on the bottom, and/or some of these other spacer things

[Cookie Monster]

How much is the max you can lift an economy car without messing everything up?
Maybe about 3"?

[Eye of the Tiger]

How much is the max you can lift an economy car without messing everything up?
Maybe about 3"?

If I had a MK4, I could actually buy a 2" lift kit for it. http://www.metalnerd.com/cat09.htm 

but srsly, the rear is just a solid axle, so it could probably take a lot of lift, but the front struts are CRAP

[280Z Turbo]

If I had a MK4, I could actually buy a 2" lift kit for it. http://www.metalnerd.com/cat09.htm 

but srsly, the rear is just a solid axle, so it could probably take a lot of lift, but the front struts are CRAP

The rear is a torsion bar, not a solid axle.

[Eye of the Tiger]

The rear is a torsion bar, not a solid axle.

It's a piece of shit.

Anyhoo, I just rode back from Advance Auto with 8 rubber blocks in my pants. They might be too small to lift the front very much, but the store had a larger size if I need them.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Pics of the jet with my Cu5+0M STAGE 1 LIFT installed
That's three of the rubber boosters on each front spring, and one ring on each rear spring.
Ya, it doesn't look too lifted in the rear, but it's probably got an inch in front. The best thing is that driving over rocks doesn't cause it to bottom out. On the road it's slightly more firm, but otherwise fine. I'll see how this does for now, but I might go for STAGE 2! That'll be bigger boosters on the front, and boosters on the rear instead of the rings.











z0mg, KILLER BEES! I ran over a bunch of them. They were swarming all over the road.      

[Cookie Monster]

No can has see pics.

[Eye of the Tiger]

No can has see pics.

red x's or what? :confoooosed:

[The Pirate]

red x's or what? :confoooosed:

I see 'em fine.

[Cookie Monster]

red x's or what? :confoooosed:

I don't see anything at all.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I don't see anything at all.

n00b

[Cookie Monster]

How odd, I can't see anything from photobucket, like my sig, Pirate's sig, Mr. Casler's sig, etc.

[280Z Turbo]

Your toe, caster, roll center, sway bar geometry, and camber are all fucked now.

[Cookie Monster]

Your toe, caster, roll center, sway bar geometry, and camber are all fucked now.

Isn't that the case with any raised car/truck?

[280Z Turbo]

Isn't that the case with any raised car/truck?

No.

A lot of trucks have solid axles front and rear, which is unaffected by such things.

I think double A-arm setups are more tolerant of raising than MacPherson struts.

[Cookie Monster]

No.

A lot of trucks have solid axles front and rear, which is unaffected by such things.

I think double A-arm setups are more tolerant of raising than MacPherson struts.

Oh darn. Maybe I shouldn't try raising a Kia Rio.

[280Z Turbo]

Oh darn. Maybe I shouldn't try raising a Kia Rio.

MacPherson setups need a lot of negative camber to handle well. If Nick takes turns too fast, the outer edge of his tires will get worn away real fast.

My Z has negative camber but it still eats the front tires up at the racetrack.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Your toe, caster, roll center, sway bar geometry, and camber are all fucked now.

No, no, yes, no, and only slightly, if at all.

[280Z Turbo]

No, no, yes, no, and only slightly, if at all.

How much higher is it? Get an alignment and see how far off it is.

[Eye of the Tiger]

MacPherson setups need a lot of negative camber to handle well. If Nick takes turns too fast, the outer edge of his tires will get worn away real fast.

My Z has negative camber but it still eats the front tires up at the racetrack.

struts gain camber under compression, and i just did the opposite of that. anyway, it's a very small amount.

[Eye of the Tiger]

How much higher is it? Get an alignment and see how far off it is.

I'm not getting a fucking $70 alignment because I shoved $20 worth of rubber under my springs.

[280Z Turbo]

struts gain camber under compression, and i just did the opposite of that. anyway, it's a very small amount.

You need moar negative camber. Positive camber FTL.

[280Z Turbo]

I'm not getting a fucking $70 alignment because I shoved $20 worth of rubber under my springs.

Alright but if you crash into a tree and die because of your alignment, don't blame me.

[Eye of the Tiger]

You need moar negative camber. Positive camber FTL.

I don't know what you're talking about. Camber isn't a problem at all.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Alright but if you crash into a tree and die because of your alignment, don't blame me.

I'll crash into a tree and die because I have rubber blocks jacking my car up and limited the suspension travel. My tires will wear out 10,000 miles sooner because of the alignment.

[Soup DeVille]

Two words:

Yamaha Rhino.

Blueberry wrangler edition.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Two words:

Yamaha Rhino.

Blueberry wrangler edition.

Two words: Street Legal
Two more words: Bee Hives

Anyhoo, the Jetta is getting more offroad-worthy every day. Today I rerouted the blinker fluid lines from the undercarriage to the interior; now they'll be safe from flying gravel and boulders.

[280Z Turbo]

Two more words: Street Legal

Anyhoo, the Jetta is getting more offroad-worthy every day. Today I rerouted the blinker fluid lines from the undercarriage to the interior; now they'll be safe from flying gravel and boulders.

I hope you used at least $500 worth of AN fittings and stainless steel hose.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I hope you used at least $500 worth of AN fittings and stainless steel hose.

Not only did I use anodized billet aluminium AN fittings and stainless steel hose all around, but they are done in a two-tone hot pink/neon puple scheme, and spiral wrapped with flashing rainbow rope lights.