So the Camaro WAS a good car

[Middle_Path]

Oh as for Camaro's, I've seen their brakes catch on fire a few times. They lookelike a lot of fun on the track though, but they just aren't stable unless modified quite a bit. They pretty much suck unless the suspension and brakes are swapped out. Stock ones in an Auto-X forget about it. They'll lost to a Prelude. On a track they'll win, but those things are so squirelly. Damn entertaining to see if the guy is going to go off the track or make it all the way through. Serious.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

"So the Camaro WAS a good car"

And you thought otherwise? Silly Indian...

You all know I'm biased...........

[S204STi]

"Shaman" from C/D runs a 500+ whp trans am IIRC.  He told me a story once about instructing a bunch of Subaru owners circa 2000, who condescendingly made fun of his car, till he ate all of their turbo Imprezas for lunch.

[SVT666]

I've not read a single post except the OP's. Lap times tested by magazines have little meaning what so ever. The main thing that counts on a track is the tires. Until magazines do tests with the same tires then it matters very little. I've creamed many a superior car on the track due to car setup(ex: tire pressure, low fuel tank, camber, etc.) and mainly because having superior tires made the biggest difference I've ever seen. I've dominated cars in far superior classes for a reason. Skill, tires, and setup. Wish I had an adjustable suspension, but it's stock. Don't want to get bumped up in class further.

The prupose of car magazine tests is to determine which car is best from the factory.  That's it.  This argument about tires is so tired.  I have no time for it.

[SVT666]

"Shaman" from C/D runs a 500+ whp trans am IIRC.  He told me a story once about instructing a bunch of Subaru owners circa 2000, who condescendingly made fun of his car, till he ate all of their turbo Imprezas for lunch.

My brother-in-law runs a 630 hp Camaro SS (+ 300 shot of nitrous).  I've never been in a car like that before.  It's scary and awesome all at the same time.

[r0tor]

big horsepower can make up for alot of handling on bigger roadcourses...

[280Z Turbo]

Not to mention the V6 was a dog.

A 200 hp 3800 is a dog?

That was probably good for a 0-60 time of at most 8 seconds.

[TheIntrepid]

A 200 hp 3800 is a dog?

That was probably good for a 0-60 time of at most 8 seconds.

Our Allure had a 200hp 3800, and it really was a dog.

[Eye of the Tiger]

The 3.4 with an auto was a DOG. Especially with Flowmasters, dual 3" chrome tailpipes, and a 200lb subwoofer in the trunk, because that's the only one that I drove.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Our Allure had a 200hp 3800, and it really was a dog.

Allure =/= Camaro

[280Z Turbo]

Our Allure had a 200hp 3800, and it really was a dog.

8 seconds is a good 0-60 time. Anything more than that is unnecessary.

[Eye of the Tiger]

8 seconds is a good 0-60 time. Anything more than that is unnecessary.

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[280Z Turbo]

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Everything you've ever owned except for the Audi is way slower that that.

[JYODER240]

SS had stiffer roll bars, stiffer springs and better (monotube, among other differences) shocks.

Okay, that makes sense then.

[TheIntrepid]

Everything you've ever owned except for the Audi is way slower that that.

Nick had an SRT-4.

[280Z Turbo]

Nick had an SRT-4.

No wai

He's too poor for that.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Everything you've ever owned except for the Audi is way slower that that.

no wai

[Eye of the Tiger]

Nick had an SRT-4.

[Raza]

8 seconds is a good 0-60 time. Anything more than that is unnecessary.

Generally I agree with you, if we're talking small RWD sedans or hot hatches.  But with so obvious looks, the Camaro ought to have the power to back up the claims its styling is making.  What the V6 F bodies did was speak loudly and carry a small stick.  Teddy says that's not the way to go about things. 

[280Z Turbo]

I've always to drop the 3800 S/C into a V6 Camaro for some reason.

[the Teuton]

8 seconds is a good 0-60 time. Anything more than that is unnecessary.

With the stick, it could keep in the high 7s. 

[Eye of the Tiger]

I've always to drop the 3800 383 S/C into a V6 V8 Camaro for some reason.

[omicron]

[Soup DeVille]

A 200 hp 3800 is a dog?

That was probably good for a 0-60 time of at most 8 seconds.

V6 Camaros always felt a lot weaker than their numbers would suggest to me. I'm not sure why.

[FordSVT]

Not really. Sure it wasn't as fast as the V8 model, but the 3.8l with the 5-spd was a decent performer. Much faster than a comparable Mustang IIRC.

The 99+ V6 5 speed Mustang was a tad faster 0-60 than the same year Camaro. I believe 7.1 to 7.4 according to C&D. Not really significant, but the Camaro wasn't faster. Both were limited to 110-115 mph and ran high 15 second quarter miles. The Mustang was a slightly better handling car though, higher skid pad and slalom anyways.

[LonghornTX]

They are descent handling cars.  Their faults lie mainly in aesthetic and practical concerns...

The Formula Firehawks were always badass to me: