Autox / Track Tires FYI

[Eye of the Tiger]

rt605?

rt615

[NomisR]

rt615

yeah, that.  Nice!  Too bad I can't get them in the OEM size for my car

[280Z Turbo]

195/60/14

i also tried vulcantire.com, but they only had one tire in stock

You could rock one high performance tire in the right rear just like me.

[Eye of the Tiger]

You could rock one high performance tire in the right rear just like me.

Did you only have enough money to buy one Hoosier? 

[Champ]

I just ordered a set of Azenis for the Jetta! Let's start an Azenis Alliance! I will be President and Founder, of course. I hereby offer you the position of Vice President, but according to the bylaws, you can make your own position. I hear there is an opening for Secretary of Rubber.

In!

[Eye of the Tiger]

In!

[280Z Turbo]

Did you only have enough money to buy one Hoosier? 

Hoosiers are $225 a piece!

I got 1 $60 Riken Raptor because the cowfuckers at the tire shop thought that it looked like a Kelly Evo Z all season. They were wrong and it makes my car a real handful in the snow.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Hoosiers are $225 a piece!

I got 1 $60 Riken Raptor because the cowfuckers at the tire shop thought that it looked like a Kelly Evo Z all season. They were wrong and it makes my car a real handful in the snow.

Riken Rapt0r? Sounds like a made up name. I bet it's just a retreaded tractor tire.

[280Z Turbo]

They are Z-rated tires so I can go 150 mph.

[Eye of the Tiger]

They are Z-rated tires so I can go 150 mph.

but as soon as you go 150.1mph, they asplode because they cheep shit tirez

[280Z Turbo]

They are made by Michelin.

[Eye of the Tiger]

They are made by Michelin.

The parent company is spelled "Michilin", and it's a Chinese knockoff of a generic tire made by Michelin.

[280Z Turbo]

I'll try to keep it under 150 then. It's kinda hard, though.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I wonder how many miles I'll be able to get out of these. 20k, perhaps? I hope they last for two summers, at least.

[280Z Turbo]

I wonder how many miles I'll be able to get out of these. 20k, perhaps? I hope they last for two summers, at least.

Permission to make a fatteh joke?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Permission to make a fatteh joke?

denied

[Champ]

I'm hoping to get 10k out of them, which might be just over 2 summers.  Driving the motorcycle a lot so the Viggen sees many less miles!

[Eye of the Tiger]

I'm hoping to get 10k out of them, which might be just over 2 summers.  Driving the motorcycle a lot so the Viggen sees many less miles!

Oh yeah 
I need to do a few little things to my bike so it will pass inspection, otherwise it's ready to go! Just waiting for the weather to cooperate...

[280Z Turbo]

denied

Overruled.

Probably only a few miles until the steel belts give out from stress.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Overruled.

Probably only a few miles until the steel belts give out from stress.

Well, okay. I must admit, I am feeling particularly fat today.

[the Teuton]

They have excellent prices.  Hankook Radial K106s for $58-61 apiece, depending on size for me.  That's awesome.

[Soup DeVille]

Many racers say you win by cramming on the fattest tire that the rim will accept. I've also heard that doing this hurts grip.

I've heard both sides of that argument too. This is the one I've heard that makes the most sense.

Having a wider tire on a rim increases contact surface, but it also makes the tire less well supported and more apt to roll towards a sidewall under cornering, and ends up lifting off just as amuch rubber as you'd gain otherwise.

[the Teuton]

I've heard both sides of that argument too. This is the one I've heard that makes the most sense.

Having a wider tire on a rim increases contact surface, but it also makes the tire less well supported and more apt to roll towards a sidewall under cornering, and ends up lifting off just as amuch rubber as you'd gain otherwise.

So then it all comes down to unsprung weight, right?

[Soup DeVille]

So then it all comes down to unsprung weight, right?

Having a tire that squirms around a bit could end up giving you more feedback.

[the Teuton]

Having a tire that squirms around a bit could end up giving you more feedback.

And this gets back to my original problem:  205 or 225?

[Eye of the Tiger]

And this gets back to my original problem:  205 or 225?

215

[Soup DeVille]

And this gets back to my original problem:  205 or 225?

225.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Soup is right, I think. A tire that is a bit wider than the rim will have a more progressive loss of traction at the limit, while a narrower tire may feel more precise, yet breakaway more suddenly.

For instance, if you had your car's suspension biased towards oversteer, you might want to put the narrow tire/wider rim up front, for better steering feel, and put a wider tire/ narrow rim in the rear to provide an easy transition to oversteer.

[the Teuton]

215

Rare and more expensive.   

[r0tor]

edgeracing.com for $288 shipped

damn you and your ridiculously cheap small tires... damn you