Acura 3.2TL

Started by TheIntrepid, March 17, 2008, 03:09:28 PM

Secret Chimp

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 21, 2008, 09:03:03 PM
Trep teaching someone to drive stick, now that's a video i'd like to watch.


"What does this thing do"
"I'm not sure, i've never seen it before"
"Get the owners manual out from the glove box"
"According to the manual it's the gear lever, but why does it have all those numbers on it"

"Dude this car sucks, I'd much rather have an Intrepid R/T over this Maseraffi whatever thingie."
"I know, it makes you do things."


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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 21, 2008, 09:03:03 PM
Trep teaching someone to drive stick, now that's a video i'd like to watch.


"What does this thing do"
"I'm not sure, i've never seen it before"
"Get the owners manual out from the glove box"
"According to the manual it's the gear lever, but why does it have all those numbers on it"

He had to consult the owner's manual to figure out how to put a 2003 Jetta into reverse.  :lol:
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GoCougs

Wow - tough crowed tonite...

MX793

Quite a few low budget cars lack a tach even with a manual gearbox.  I've seen base Ford Foci from a few years back (before the 1st facelift) with manuals and no tachs.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: MX793 on March 21, 2008, 10:02:01 PM
Quite a few low budget cars lack a tach even with a manual gearbox.  I've seen base Ford Foci from a few years back (before the 1st facelift) with manuals and no tachs.

:cry:
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Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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TheIntrepid

If you need a tach in order for you to be able to drive stick properly, you're all n00bs.

2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

Raza

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 21, 2008, 09:03:03 PM
Trep teaching someone to drive stick, now that's a video i'd like to watch.


"What does this thing do"
"I'm not sure, i've never seen it before"
"Get the owners manual out from the glove box"
"According to the manual it's the gear lever, but why does it have all those numbers on it"

"It's got R, but where are P, N, and D?"
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

2o6

Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 21, 2008, 10:05:40 PM
If you need a tach in order for you to be able to drive stick properly, you're all n00bs.

For beginners it should help.


Once you get to know your car, you shouldn't really need it.....

TheIntrepid

Quote from: 2o6 on March 21, 2008, 10:06:39 PM
For beginners it should help.

No it shouldn't. The first vehicles I ever drove stick on did not have tachs. The first stick car I drove with a tach was a 2003 Chevy Optra, coming from a 2002 Maruti Zen.

Hell, I didn't even notice that this Civic didn't have a tach until I was watching my buddy learn from the passenger seat.

2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: 2o6 on March 21, 2008, 10:06:39 PM
For beginners it should help.


Once you get to know your car, you shouldn't really need it.....

Suprisingly, Trep is right. Beginners should not be staring at the tach, they should be feeling it.
2024 Mitsubishi Mirage ES

Eye of the Tiger

2024 Mitsubishi Mirage ES

MX793

Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 21, 2008, 10:03:56 PM
You don't need one anyways.

It's nice to know where the redline is when you're romping on it.  Of course, I guess that's the benefit of a rev limiter.  Bounce off the limiter a few times and you'll figure out how to identify the end of the rev range by ear.  And if the power falls off some distance before max revs, you can simply shift by the seat of your pants.
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hotrodalex

You don't absolutely need it, but it's still nice to have and I don't see why they wouldn't put one in.

TheIntrepid

Quote from: hotrodalex on March 21, 2008, 10:12:16 PM
You don't absolutely need it, but it's still nice to have and I don't see why they wouldn't put one in.

It was a DX with no power windows. My girlfriend's Civic LX didn't even have it, so I think only the EX and Sport models had it.

2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

2o6

Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 21, 2008, 10:12:57 PM
It was a DX with no power windows. My girlfriend's Civic LX didn't even have it, so I think only the EX and Sport models had it.

It seems the almost all the American-spec models have one.

TheIntrepid

Quote from: 2o6 on March 21, 2008, 10:14:08 PM
It seems the almost all the American-spec models have one.

Maybe. :huh:

2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

The Pirate

Quote from: 2o6 on March 21, 2008, 10:14:08 PM
It seems the almost all the American-spec models have one.


I don't know about the current gen, but 7th gen and older DX models did not have a tach.  All trims above DX did have a tach.

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Quote from: omicron on July 10, 2007, 10:58:12 PM
After you wake up with the sun at 6am on someone's floor, coughing up cigarette butts and tasting like warm beer, you may well change your opinion on this matter.

MX793

Quote from: 2o6 on March 21, 2008, 10:14:08 PM
It seems the almost all the American-spec models have one.

In that generation of Civic, the tach was not standard equipment on the DX models.  LX and EX models got a tach.
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CJ

Quote from: 2o6 on March 21, 2008, 10:14:08 PM
It seems the almost all the American-spec models have one.


Nope.  The drivers ed. Civics didn't have tachs, though they were automatics.

TheIntrepid

Quote from: MX793 on March 21, 2008, 10:21:41 PM
In that generation of Civic, the tach was not standard equipment on the DX models.  LX and EX models got a tach.

No. My girlfriend's 2002 LX didn't have a tach.

This friend of mine has a 2000 or 2001 LX automatic sedan and it doesn't have one either.


2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

Raza

Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 21, 2008, 10:07:40 PM
No it shouldn't. The first vehicles I ever drove stick on did not have tachs. The first stick car I drove with a tach was a 2003 Chevy Optra, coming from a 2002 Maruti Zen.

Hell, I didn't even notice that this Civic didn't have a tach until I was watching my buddy learn from the passenger seat.

I'm still amused by how confident you are in your abilities considering I'm not even convinced you can get a car out of a parking lot if it has three pedals.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If you can read this, you're too close


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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

The Pirate

Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 21, 2008, 10:24:32 PM
No. My girlfriend's 2002 LX didn't have a tach.

This friend of mine has a 2000 or 2001 LX automatic sedan and it doesn't have one either.




MX's post (mine too) was a reply to 2o6, and hence referenced the United States market.  So, yes, he is correct.
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Quote from: omicron on July 10, 2007, 10:58:12 PM
After you wake up with the sun at 6am on someone's floor, coughing up cigarette butts and tasting like warm beer, you may well change your opinion on this matter.

TheIntrepid

Quote from: Raza  on March 21, 2008, 10:26:25 PM
I'm still amused by how confident you are in your abilities considering I'm not even convinced you can get a car out of a parking lot if it has three pedals.

Okay. :ohyeah:

2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

MX793

Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 21, 2008, 10:24:32 PM
No. My girlfriend's 2002 LX didn't have a tach.

This friend of mine has a 2000 or 2001 LX automatic sedan and it doesn't have one either.



I was speaking of the US market cars.  It's my understanding that Canadian market trim levels are different from US trim levels, with the Canadian Si being equivalent to the EX in the US, and the US Si being the same as the SiR in Canada.  DX is obviously the bottom of the line for both markets.  I'm not sure where the Canadian LX and EX models slot in relative to the US LX.
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S204STi

Ah nice, and Acura Maxima.  I swear, besides the independent rear end the two cars are so similar it hurts.

Raza

Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 21, 2008, 10:29:14 PM
Okay. :ohyeah:

Oh right, you've driven stick five times and you're an expert.  I forgot.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

CALL_911

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=13886.msg781602#msg781602 date=1206160606
Oh right, you've driven stick five times and you're an expert.  I forgot.

CHILLLLLL SON!!


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S204STi

I've been driving stick for a year...still suck at it.

The Pirate

Yeah, I learned to drive 5 speed when I was 15 (jeez, it's been 10 years :mask:), and I've driven one daily for the past 5 years.  I'd put myself in the moderately proficient category.
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Quote from: omicron on July 10, 2007, 10:58:12 PM
After you wake up with the sun at 6am on someone's floor, coughing up cigarette butts and tasting like warm beer, you may well change your opinion on this matter.