Nissan GT-R V-Spec

[nickdrinkwater]

They are street legal in one country.  It's not even street legal in the country where this race track is located.

Many cars are not road legal in certain places, but are in others.  I'm sure I read somewhere that the R34 Nissan Skyline is not road legal in the USA.  If that is so, then are you saying that a Nissan Skyline setting a track record at Laguna Seca is not a production car?

I don't doubt the Radical could be legalised if someone wanted to use it on German roads.

[SVT666]

The difference is, the Skyline is road legal just about everywhere else, including Canada and Mexico...the two countries bordering the US.  The Radical is legal only on one single island.

[nickdrinkwater]

The difference is, the Skyline is road legal just about everywhere else, including Canada and Mexico...the two countries bordering the US.  The Radical is legal only on one single island.

That's not true.  The Radical is road legal throughout the UK.

Like I said, I'm sure it could be registered in Germany if someone wanted to.  If a Ferrari FFX can be made road legal in Switzerland, then anything goes!

[SVT666]

That's not true.  The Radical is road legal throughout the UK.

Sorry.  One little group of islands.

Like I said, I'm sure it could be registered in Germany if someone wanted to.  If a Ferrari FFX can be made road legal in Switzerland, then anything goes!

Not true.  Every country is different.  Going by your logic, then a Skyline should be able to be legalized in the US, but it's not.

[nickdrinkwater]

The US is anal about that kind of thing.  AFAIK hardly any cars that were not sold 'officially' by the manfacturer can be driven there.

My point was, there's no point applying for type-approval unless there is demand.

Ok, another scenario.  A Tata Nano is running around Laguna Seca.  Do you consider that a production car?  (This is using your logic unless I'm missing something).

[SVT666]

The US is anal about that kind of thing.  AFAIK hardly any cars that were not sold 'officially' by the manfacturer can be driven there.

My point was, there's no point applying for type-approval unless there is demand.

Ok, another scenario.  A Tata Nano is running around Laguna Seca.  Do you consider that a production car?  (This is using your logic unless I'm missing something).

I don't know what a Tata Nano is, but I bet there are 672,000,000 of them running around Asia and the Middle East.

[nickdrinkwater]

I don't know what a Tata Nano is, but I bet there are 672,000,000 of them running around Asia and the Middle East.

Small car made in India for India.

Is it a production car?

[SVT666]

Small car made in India for India.

Is it a production car?

From what I just read, the car isn't even in production yet.  So no it's not.

I have a hard time accepting a car like the Radical as a street legal production car, when it's really just a LeMans racer that's been made street legal.  Yes it is a production car, and yes it's street legal (somewhere), but I have a hard time accepting it.

[sportyaccordy]

Small car made in India for India.

Is it a production car?

It is like the Honda Integra Type-R of India

[nickdrinkwater]

It is like the Honda Integra Type-R of India

I know what it is.  I was asking HEMI for his definition.

[nickdrinkwater]

From what I just read, the car isn't even in production yet.  So no it's not.

I have a hard time accepting a car like the Radical as a street legal production car, when it's really just a LeMans racer that's been made street legal.  Yes it is a production car, and yes it's street legal (somewhere), but I have a hard time accepting it.

It's a track day car along the lines of a Caterham or Ultima.  If you want, you can buy a Radical in the UK, drive it to the 'Ring, set the production car track record and drive it home again.

[Middle_Path]

Really?

Hmmm...You learn something new everyday.

Nah nah nah, he's tricking you man. It's Horatio unless you are Spanish.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamt of in your Nissan GTR.

[Raza]

They are street legal in one country.  It's not even street legal in the country where this race track is located.

So?  The Zonda isn't legal here.  Should it be disqualified as well?

[Raza]

Really?

Hmmm...You learn something new everyday.

Yeah.  If it's Spanish or Italian, chances are that it's going to be a c. 

[Raza]

The difference is, the Skyline is road legal just about everywhere else, including Canada and Mexico...the two countries bordering the US.  The Radical is legal only on one single island.

The R34 isn't legal in Canada, and there are no laws in Mexico.

[sportyaccordy]

The R34 isn't legal in Canada, and there are no laws in Mexico.

I could have sworn people import GT-Rs to Canada more than America inadvertently exported draft dodgers...

[Tave]

So?  The Zonda isn't legal here.  Should it be disqualified as well?

But the Zonda is legal in more than one country.

[Raza]

But the Zonda is legal in more than one country.

Is that the rule all of a sudden?

It's sold, legal where it's sold, and sold as a whole car.

[Tave]

It's a track day car along the lines of a Caterham or Ultima. 

The Caterham isn't a production car, is it?

[Tave]

Is that the rule all of a sudden?

It's sold, legal where it's sold, and sold as a whole car.

It's an inch-away from being a full-out racecar, and no one buys for anything other than the track. It's only road legal in one country in the world, which doesn't even happen to be the country the track is at.


It pushes the boundary of "production," just a little.

[Raza]

I could have sworn people import GT-Rs to Canada more than America inadvertently exported draft dodgers...

The R34 is as legal there as it is here, I believe.  The R32, on the other hand, is more accessible due to its age.

[Raza]

The Caterham isn't a production car, is it?

You can buy a Caterham fully built (and there are Caterhams that are only available fully built).

[Raza]

It's an inch-away from being a full-out racecar, and no one buys for anything other than the track. It's only road legal in one country in the world, which doesn't even happen to be the country the track is at.


It pushes the boundary of "production," just a little.

As I said, the head of Radical would disagree.  He called someone out in Evo over a letter that was written discrediting the Radical as a road car.  He drives his to work. 

[Lazerous]

Well the 7:25 time is semi-official.



"The prototype Nissan GT-R V-Spec, wearing the "Victory Specification" designation reserved for the ultra high-performance Nissan GT-R, has been caught lapping the famed N?rburgring at an incredible, if not simply unbelievable, 7:25 per lap. This, according to bystanders trackside. (For comparison, Walter R?hrl lapped the Ring in 7:28 while driving a Porsche Carrera GT in 2004.)"

Rest of the story and more pics can be found here: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/08/nissan-gt-r-v-spec-lap-times-stun-observers/

[Cookie Monster]

They've curbed the weight from 3900 to about 3500-3600 eh? That's a great improvement. Hopefully the R35 Z-tune or Spec-V Nur II or whatever it'll be called will be fully stripped out with a conventional manual, get the weight down to 3200 or so...

[the Teuton]

They won't give it a conventional manual.  Yes, Rags, autotragic FTW.

[Cookie Monster]

They won't give it a conventional manual.  Yes, Rags, autotragic FTW.

I'd rather have an R32.

[the Teuton]

I'd rather have an R32.

So would I, but that's even pretty hard to come by.  If you want an LHD model, that's even harder to come by, but it can be done.



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[Cookie Monster]

So would I, but that's even pretty hard to come by.  If you want an LHD model, that's even harder to come by, but it can be done.



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Yes, that's true.
Anyway, the chances of me owning a GT-R are very slim to nothing anyways. I've never seen a GT-R in the US.

[the Teuton]

Yes, that's true.
Anyway, the chances of me owning a GT-R are very slim to nothing anyways. I've never seen a GT-R in the US.

Come on, Paul Walker, take a flatbed over to Motorex's old HQ and steal the wrecked one sitting behind their building, rebuild it, and register it as a kit car.