Honda Builds a Better Civic:

[Tom]

your right tom

You know it  

[Secret Chimp]

I rode in a current-gen Civic a few days ago; building a better one wouldn't be saying a whole lot.

[ifcar]

Many compacts have leather available now, it would be surprising if Honda didn't add it.

But they have never had it in the past, right?

Nope, but none of its competitors did in 2001 either.  

[Tom]

Many compacts have leather available now, it would be surprising if Honda didn't add it.

But they have never had it in the past, right?

Nope, but none of its competitors did in 2001 either.

Elantra

[ifcar]

Nope, not until 02, and even then it was only on the hatchback model. You couldn't get a sedan with leather until 03.

[thewizard16]

Nope, not until 02, and even then it was only on the hatchback model. You couldn't get a sedan with leather until 03.

Tom, you know better than to contradict ifcar.  If there's a feature out there, he'll find it, and tell you when you could get it.    

[ifcar]

Nope, not until 02, and even then it was only on the hatchback model. You couldn't get a sedan with leather until 03.

Tom, you know better than to contradict ifcar.  If there's a feature out there, he'll find it, and tell you when you could get it.  

The sad part is, I knew that off the top of my head.    

[FlatBlackCaddy]

This new civic gave me the shock of my life. I never thought they could F up the thing anymore than the last one. Then they drop this bomb, and i'm starting to like the old one alot more.

As for the "early drive comments" i'll take them for what they're worth, nothing. These could be some rants and raves from hardcore honda fans. The type R comment is mainly what made me draw the above conclusion.

To me it looks like honda may be entering a area which could not be very good for them, their products are becoming less appealing and they are starting to ride on name alone(even the brass knows that, pounding the honda name away in every commercial). I don't think they will ever fall as far or hard as GM did, but i'm thinking they might learn what it feels like in the next 5-10years.

[Tom]

Nope, not until 02, and even then it was only on the hatchback model. You couldn't get a sedan with leather until 03.

Tom, you know better than to contradict ifcar.  If there's a feature out there, he'll find it, and tell you when you could get it.  

I did my best  

[R33 GT-R]

your right Tom

[CaseyNPham]

When I saw the sedan, pretty wasn't the first word to pop in my head but at least it looks SO MUCH nicer than the spy photos. I'd be really surprised if Honda gave the US that interior. It's not flowy at all. As for the short hood, make it LONGER!! And that front door is kind of.... blech. And it looks a litle hyundai-ish. Wow, now that I think of it, the spy photos muct have been utter junk.

[Run Away]

Tell Honda to bring back the cheap hatchbacks with engine mounts that will accept the new K series, good suspension geometry but crappy springs shocks and tires.
And quit the stubby nose styling.
The EF, EG and EK were all great looking and performing Civics. The EG was probably the best of those though.

[Run Away]

BTW, the link gives me the same errors that I was getting with CarSpin before.
Can anyone post the pics in here (I can see the interior pic)

[CaseyNPham]

are these the ones?

[CaseyNPham]