SHO!

[Eye of the Tiger]

Nick:  Common sense.  Use it.

http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/840599976.html

That Monte is tempting, though.

Absolutely shameless

[Soup DeVille]

Nick:  Common sense.  Use it.

http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/840599976.html

That Monte is tempting, though.

Read between the lines: the sellers have enough of a relationship with their mechanic they consider him to be "their mechanic."

[the Teuton]

Absolutely shameless

But sensible!

[Eye of the Tiger]

Read between the lines: the sellers have enough of a relationship with their mechanic they consider him to be "their mechanic."

The SHO owner has a mechanic, too. We drove past the shop.

[Soup DeVille]

The SHO owner has a mechanic, too. We drove past the shop.

What does that say to you?

[the Teuton]

Read between the lines: the sellers have enough of a relationship with their mechanic they consider him to be "their mechanic."

But they've done all of the basic work that those cars are known for being problematic with:  Timing belt, and I assume head gaskets at that mileage (those engines rarely make it to 120k without a headgasket overhaul).

Besides, I have "my" mechanic back home.  Does that make my car inherently unreliable?

[Eye of the Tiger]

What does that say to you?

Their home garage also had tools scattered all over the place, and what looked like a few old SHO parts.

[Soup DeVille]

But they've done all of the basic work that those cars are known for being problematic with:  Timing belt, and I assume head gaskets at that mileage (those engines rarely make it to 120k without a headgasket overhaul).

Besides, I have "my" mechanic back home.  Does that make my car inherently unreliable?

Its not a good sign if you were to feel a need to mention it when selling the car, is it? And gods, you know the headgaskets fail every 120,000 and you think its a reliable car?

[Soup DeVille]

Their home garage also had tools scattered all over the place, and what looked like a few old SHO parts.

Read between the lines "I'm giving up on this POS, I hope I can offfload it for a decent price."

[Eye of the Tiger]

economical?
http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/866055720.html

[the Teuton]

Less than 10,000 miles a year!

http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/858972404.html

[Soup DeVille]

economical?
http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/866055720.html

No.

Just No.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Read between the lines "I'm giving up on this POS, I hope I can offfload it for a decent price."

She "needs 4wd for the winter". She was driving a new FOrester.

[Soup DeVille]

She "needs 4wd for the winter". She was driving a new FOrester.

I've told people a lot of things to sell cars too.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I've told people a lot of things to sell cars too.

So you're one of those people 

[the Teuton]

Its not a good sign if you were to feel a need to mention it when selling the car, is it? And gods, you know the headgaskets fail every 120,000 and you think its a reliable car?

Subaru made those engines with thin headgaskets.  Most were replaced under recall.  I have an EJ25D in my garage right now, and yes, I think the engine is reliable -- no less than a Toyota Camry "sludger," and maybe a lot more so.

[Soup DeVille]

So you're one of those people 

The last guy was a jehovah's witness. He deserved it.

[Eye of the Tiger]

The last guy was a jehovah's witness. He deserved it.

Jehovah's witnesses don't drive SHOs.

[The Pirate]

Jehovah's witnesses don't drive SHOs.

I know one that did. 

[the Teuton]

Nick:

My friend had one of these with 260k on it.  They're reliable.

http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/846006913.html

[Soup DeVille]

Subaru made those engines with thin headgaskets.  Most were replaced under recall.  I have an EJ25D in my garage right now, and yes, I think the engine is reliable -- no less than a Toyota Camry "sludger," and maybe a lot more so.

In your garage, or in your car? Because you know, its hard to tell how reliable it is sitting on an engine stand.

Just due to the simple number of used parts available for them, it just makes more sense to go old and domestic when shopping for cars in this price range; and the more mundane and common the mechanicals are, the better.

When the last automotive ICE on earth finally dies, I'd put good money on it being an aircooled VW 4, an old Mercedes diesel, or a carbureted Chevy small block.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Nick:

My friend had one of these with 260k on it.  They're reliable.

http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/846006913.html

Some people have SHos with 260k. I fail to see your point. Look at that riceboy muffler. Obvious sign of abuse.

[the Teuton]

I'm just saying get something sensible.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=302

[Eye of the Tiger]

I'm just saying get something sensible.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=302

Fine. I'll get the Monte Carlo.

[Eye of the Tiger]

It's funny, I actually happen to have a set of new springs that will fit on the rear of a Monte Carlo, and a carburetor, and I think some shocks, but definately my coffee can muffler would have to find its way on there, just to be ridiculous.

[the Teuton]

Fine. I'll get the Monte Carlo.

When you have the time, energy, and money, then you should get something exotic...like a DOHC Z34 Monte Carlo.

[Eye of the Tiger]

When you have the time, energy, and money, then you should get something exotic...like a DOHC Z34 Monte Carlo.

That can only be worse than a SHO.  Can you even get a manual?

[the Teuton]

That can only be worse than a SHO.  Can you even get a manual?

They did come in 5-speed, too.

I think an AWD Pontiac 6000 would kick ass, too, but those only came with the 3-speed auto.

[Eye of the Tiger]

SHO > all

[AutobahnSHO]

hehehe

The bouncing speedo is related to the crank sensor.
Seriously you'd spend the purchase price on maintenance in the first year of ownership...