The Nissan 370Z

Started by 4wheelsonline, November 13, 2008, 12:39:08 AM

Rich

There isn't much that's higher, I think the S2000/M3 are the only ones as high or higher
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r0tor

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S204STi

Quote from: r0tor on November 24, 2008, 07:16:58 AM
again.... what high redline???

:lol:

High for a car saddled with antiquated pistons.

S204STi

BTW, you other guys are dense. :praise:

Rich

Quote from: R-inge on November 24, 2008, 10:29:10 AM
BTW, you other guys are dense. :praise:

An RX-8 crank rotation tops out at 3k RPM :huh:
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Quote from: HotRodPilot on November 24, 2008, 10:37:02 AM
An RX-8 crank rotation tops out at 3k RPM :huh:

but then my engine also pumps out 450 lbft of torque!!!
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565

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=136547?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*


Edmunds test.

Sadly it doesn't seem that much faster yet, but it definitely grips alot better .97G and stops alot better 101 ft 60-0.


S204STi

Quote from: HotRodPilot on November 24, 2008, 10:37:02 AM
An RX-8 crank rotation tops out at 3k RPM :huh:

Well, I learned something new today.

Why would RPM read 3x that number?

MX793

Quote from: R-inge on November 25, 2008, 04:29:11 PM
Well, I learned something new today.

Why would RPM read 3x that number?

There's a 1:3 internal gear reduction between the "crankshaft" (rather, it's equivalent) and the engine output shaft (that mounts the flywheel and feeds the transmission).
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S204STi

Quote from: MX793 on November 25, 2008, 04:44:50 PM
There's a 1:3 internal gear reduction between the "crankshaft" (rather, it's equivalent) and the engine output shaft (that mounts the flywheel and feeds the transmission).

So... that gear multiplies output speed by 3X going out to the flywheel?  RPM would mean flywheel speed in this case then right?

r0tor

actually the rotors orbit at 1/3 the speed of the crank shaft (aka eccentric shaft in a rotary engine)
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MX793

Quote from: R-inge on November 25, 2008, 04:51:23 PM
So... that gear multiplies output speed by 3X going out to the flywheel?  RPM would mean flywheel speed in this case then right?

Actually, now that I think about it, there isn't a reduction between the crank and the ouput.  The "crank" (mainshaft) and the output spin at the same speed (actually, I think they're usually the same shaft).  The rotor itself spins at 1/3 the rate of the mainshaft.  It's due to a sort of planetary phasing gear between the rotor and the mainshaft.  It's a little hard to explain in words.

And yes, engine RPM is measured at the output.
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Quote from: 565 on November 25, 2008, 04:14:09 PM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=136547?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*


Edmunds test.

Sadly it doesn't seem that much faster yet, but it definitely grips alot better .97G and stops alot better 101 ft 60-0.



0-60 time is the same as they got with the Nismo Z, but the quarter mile time is .2 second faster so perhaps they were just easy on the launch since it was a preproduction car. Considering edmunds is normally pretty slow, the mags will probably manage sub-5 0-60 times. Damn impressive considering this seems to be the whole package.

GoCougs

Quote from: 565 on November 25, 2008, 04:14:09 PM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=136547?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*

Edmunds test.

Sadly it doesn't seem that much faster yet, but it definitely grips alot better .97G and stops alot better 101 ft 60-0.


Sounds faster w/13.4 sec 1/4 mile time. And just wait till the other mags get their hands on one.

Sounds like the auto rev match works fantastic.

MX793

4.9s to 60 with rollout (which all of the major mags use except Edmunds).  I don't recall any of the major mags cracking 5 seconds with a 350Z before.
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565

Okay so Motortrend got 4.7 0-60 13.3 @ 105.7


http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0902_2009_nissan_370z_first_test/index.html


Looking a bit better.


.99 G in the corners.  106ft 60-0 Stopping.


One thing is for sure, the new Z's got incredible tire grip.


I can see it doing very well on C&D's lightning lap challenge (considering the old 350Z still holds the record for it's class).

GoCougs

#136
13.3 sec 1/4 mi for $30k is quite a deal.

From the sounds of it is still quite an unrefined beast. I think I'd spend the extra 10% and get the far, far more refined G37C.


Raza

#138
I'm beginning to really like the looks.

Any spy shots on the convertible?

So is this going to drop 350Z used prices or what?
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Quote from: the Teuton on December 01, 2008, 08:56:16 PM
Is this 911 devouring material yet?

That might be a bit of a stretch, but has potential as a Cayman devourer.

2o6

I'll have to see it in person. The 350Z has a better stance, while this one has really stout and stubby proportions. I don't like it.

Eye of the Tiger

370Z vs Camaro V6 vs Genesis V6 vs Camry V6
who will win?
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Cookie Monster

I like the profile of the car, but the headlights and taillights still look funky...

I didn't like the Maxima when I saw it in person... hopefully I'll like this one.
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This car looks like it will look great in person...

And it is fast as hell...

I am a huge fan.

FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: NACar on December 01, 2008, 09:20:51 PM
370Z vs Camaro V6 vs Genesis V6 vs Camry V6
who will win?

Well the camry is FWD so throw that out, the camaro is underpowered for its porky curb weight so chuck that in the trash(if they ever hit the streets).

That leaves the Genesis and 370, the genesis will have higher weight and less HP. Also given nissan's decades of sports car building and the genesis being hyundai's first solid attempt i'd give the knod to the 370. Or where you just joking?

FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: Raza  on December 01, 2008, 08:52:32 PM
I'm beginning to really like the looks.

Any spy shots on the convertible?

So is this going to drop 350Z used prices or what?

I suspect that 350Z values will actually go up significantly as any used car does when a new generation arrives.

:rolleyes:

This isn't a 930 raza, of course the 350 values will go down.

Raza

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on December 02, 2008, 07:17:10 PM
I suspect that 350Z values will actually go up significantly as any used car does when a new generation arrives.

:rolleyes:

This isn't a 930 raza, of course the 350 values will go down.

Some new car introductions do cause a slight increase in value of the used models.  Like every current BMW on sale today caused an immediate increase in value in previous BMW models.  Some new car introductions cause precipitous drops in used car values as well, like the 997's killing of 996 prices.  But then again, the 996 drove up prices of the 993. 
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: Raza  on December 02, 2008, 07:21:30 PM
Some new car introductions do cause a slight increase in value of the used models.  Like every current BMW on sale today caused an immediate increase in value in previous BMW models.  Some new car introductions cause precipitous drops in used car values as well, like the 997's killing of 996 prices.  But then again, the 996 drove up prices of the 993. 

news to me that bmw's go up when new models come out, unless you are talking about low volume specialty models like the M cars.

911's, M Cars and other lower volume enthusiasts cars aside a new model almost always lowers the value of a previous generation.

Raza

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on December 02, 2008, 07:23:54 PM
news to me that bmw's go up when new models come out, unless you are talking about low volume specialty models like the M cars.

911's, M Cars and other lower volume enthusiasts cars aside a new model almost always lowers the value of a previous generation.

I pay attention to these things.  I'm funemployed, remember?
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