2005 4 passenger Coupes

[r0tor]

I love how everyone is choosing the GTO over its competitors on this poll when in reality hardly anyone bought it over the competition.

For my money the G35 wins hands down.  Nothing on this list comes close to being a better overall package, RWD, luxury,sportiness, and beautiful styling.

I v0ted for the G35c as well... the other cars are just "meh" compared to it

[SVT666]

The Altima Coupe didn't come out until 2007 or 2008.


2005 Altimas look like this.

Oops.  I thought the Altima coupe was out in 2005.  I'll take it out of the poll.

[SVT666]

Altima SE-R is a good option IMO.

If Hemi considers the Accord V6 sedan, then this is also a good choice IMO.

This poll isn't for me, it's just a poll.  My buying decision in a couple to three years will be between a GTO, Mustang GT, and a G8 GT.

[sportyaccordy]

G35, but really I'd find the $$$ for a 330Ci ZHP coupe. G35s are unnecessarily huge

[2o6]

G35, but really I'd find the $$$ for a 330Ci ZHP coupe. G35s are unnecessarily huge looking.

In reality, they're the same size. I guess the high beltline and (I heard) heavy steering don't help it's size issue.

[Raza]

I love how everyone is choosing the GTO over its competitors on this poll when in reality hardly anyone bought it over the competition.

For my money the G35 wins hands down.  Nothing on this list comes close to being a better overall package, RWD, luxury,sportiness, and beautiful styling.

The GTO is a much better car than the G35 coupe.  I have had seat time in several GTOs and 350Zs, and time as a passenger in the G35 coupe.  The GTO's interior is better made and roomier, and it's faster and better looking.

[NomisR]

The GTO is a much better car than the G35 coupe.  I have had seat time in several GTOs and 350Zs, and time as a passenger in the G35 coupe.  The GTO's interior is better made and roomier, and it's faster and better looking.

The only thing that wins really for the G35 is the fact that it's a luxury marque vs a Pontiac.  But that said, I don't really like the shifter and clutch for the GTO, then again, I didn't like the one on G35 either although it'll be 100x more difficult finding a manual G35

[Raza]

The only thing that wins really for the G35 is the fact that it's a luxury marque vs a Pontiac.  But that said, I don't really like the shifter and clutch for the GTO, then again, I didn't like the one on G35 either although it'll be 100x more difficult finding a manual G35

I really liked the GTO's clutch and shifter.  I hated the 350's. 

[NomisR]

I really liked the GTO's clutch and shifter.  I hated the 350's. 

The throw was too long and the catch point was high, and clutch was a bit on the heavy side if I remember correctly.  That was comparing with my Rx8.. but that was at least 2 years ago since I last drove one.  I liked the power though.

[Raza]

The throw was too long and the catch point was high, and clutch was a bit on the heavy side if I remember correctly.  That was comparing with my Rx8.. but that was at least 2 years ago since I last drove one.  I liked the power though.

Those things are true, but the clutch communicated well (much better than the 350's useless clutch) and the shifter was pleasingly notchy. 

[the Teuton]

The throw was too long and the catch point was high, and clutch was a bit on the heavy side if I remember correctly.  That was comparing with my Rx8.. but that was at least 2 years ago since I last drove one.  I liked the power though.

A long throw does not a bad shifter make.  A lot of the 1990s BMWs had really long throws compared to today's models, and I think they were more natural feeling.

[NomisR]

Those things are true, but the clutch communicated well (much better than the 350's useless clutch) and the shifter was pleasingly notchy. 

So Rx8 > GTO > 350Z?  I can live with that.

[Raza]

So Rx8 > GTO > 350Z?  I can live with that.

As I recall, the RX8's shifter and clutch were really damn good.  I'd say so.

But mind you, I prefer a higher effort clutch action (one of the biggest advantages of my car over a 2.5L Jetta is that the clutch actually has some resistance to it; the 2.5's clutch was super light).  I find them easier to modulate, even if they are harder on my bad knee. 

[Rupert]

GTO, and no gun needed.

[Rupert]

GTO, black exterior, red leather with the LS1 hood and some nice 19"s  (I have decided that the cars stylistic problems are largely due to too small OEM wheels.

Oh, I hate big wheels.

[Rupert]

Uh, this is an enthusiast forum -- not a forum of people who buy cars on whims.  We would if we could.

This is why GM is suffering.  They're listening to too many people like us.

I find that to be a strange notion.

[the Teuton]

I find that to be a strange notion.

We're enthusiasts.  We like fun cars.  Normal people don't buy fun cars; they buy appliances.

Enthusiasts rarely buy new cars.

[Vinsanity]

The GTO is a much better car than the G35 coupe.  I have had seat time in several GTOs and 350Zs, and time as a passenger in the G35 coupe.  The GTO's interior is better made and roomier, and it's faster and better looking.

I'll concede to everything except better looking. You know that Pontiac Cobalt thing? I always mistake those stupid things for GTO's from the back until I spot the single exhaust and tiny wheels.

[cozmik]

My vote goes to to the G35. The GTO just isn't that great of a car. It's fast, but it has no polish. I don't like the seats and driving position either.

[Raza]

I'll concede to everything except better looking. You know that Pontiac Cobalt thing? I always mistake those stupid things for GTO's from the back until I spot the single exhaust and tiny wheels.

I guess, to an extent, that looks are somewhat subjective, so we'll have to agree to disagree there.

[Raza]

My vote goes to to the G35. The GTO just isn't that great of a car. It's fast, but it has no polish. I don't like the seats and driving position either.

The GTO lacks polish, but the G35 does not?  Interesting point of view. 

What's also interesting is your view on the seats.  Most Saabers I know drool over those seats (and the ones in the Cobalt SS/SC).  There are more GTOs on my Saab board then on any board I've ever been on, excluding LS1GTO.

[sportyaccordy]

If maintenance on the E46 wasn't so scary (disintegrating shock mounts!!!!??!?!?!?!?) I would give it the nod over a G. But realistically the G is an easier car to own, and power wise I just don't see how any non ///M 3 could keep up. The G is almost brutal in the straight line.

[cozmik]

The GTO lacks polish, but the G35 does not?  Interesting point of view. 

What's also interesting is your view on the seats.  Most Saabers I know drool over those seats (and the ones in the Cobalt SS/SC).  There are more GTOs on my Saab board then on any board I've ever been on, excluding LS1GTO.

The G35 has more polish to it than does the GTO. That said, since my friend has "upgraded" to the Pedders suspension, the car feels like it's going to fall apart. I might just not remember what a stock GTO feels like. The Pedders suspension though rattles, shakes, and jolts the car to pieces, along with the occupants.

I don't like the GTO's seats. Every time I ride in my friend's I end up getting out in pain. And the "leather" on them is junk. I think it's plastic honestly.

[omicron]

The GTO lacks polish, but the G35 does not?  Interesting point of view. 

What's also interesting is your view on the seats.  Most Saabers I know drool over those seats (and the ones in the Cobalt SS/SC).  There are more GTOs on my Saab board then on any board I've ever been on, excluding LS1GTO.

And the Saab cupholders! Marvellous things.

[NomisR]

The G35 has more polish to it than does the GTO. That said, since my friend has "upgraded" to the Pedders suspension, the car feels like it's going to fall apart. I might just not remember what a stock GTO feels like. The Pedders suspension though rattles, shakes, and jolts the car to pieces, along with the occupants.

I don't like the GTO's seats. Every time I ride in my friend's I end up getting out in pain. And the "leather" on them is junk. I think it's plastic honestly.

Well, when you put in poor aftermarket suspension for driving on the streets, that will result.  It's not the fault of the car or the manufacturer but the owner. 

[cozmik]

Well, when you put in poor aftermarket suspension for driving on the streets, that will result.  It's not the fault of the car or the manufacturer but the owner. 

I don't remember it being that great before either though. But like I said, I might just not remember. Still, that doesn't explain or remedy my other complaints.

[S204STi]

The GTO does have a very stiff ride, particularly over speed bumps or anything resembling unsmooth pavement.

[Raza]

The GTO does have a very stiff ride, particularly over speed bumps or anything resembling unsmooth pavement.

What?  I don't remember that.  If anything I thought it was a bit soft. 

[S204STi]

What?  I don't remember that.  If anything I thought it was a bit soft. 

Meh, I do drive a Subaru, so I guess that would scew my perception of "stiff."

[Raza]

Ok.

I may be off base, because I also found the Mustang and C5 Corvette to be a bit soft.  And I've also never found a suspension too stiff that I felt uncomfortable (though I have found plenty that were too soft/floaty and made me a bit sick).