WTF? This is why I don't think I could work in auto service

Started by MX793, February 15, 2009, 02:08:10 PM

CALL_911



2004 S2000
2016 340xi

AutobahnSHO

Will

MX793

Quote from: CALL_911 on February 16, 2009, 05:18:49 PM
So what is on your replacement list?

Camaro LT, '10 Mustang GT, Genesis Coupe V6, WRX, 128i.  Might also consider a CPO late-model 3 series or A4 Quattro if I can find one equipped how I'd want it (manual gearbox is hard to find in the used market around here).

There's also a chance that things won't pan out as planned and I keep my car for another year.
Needs more Jiggawatts

2016 Ford Mustang GTPP / 2011 Toyota Rav4 Base AWD / 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ABS
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TBR

Does the state safety inspection require that there not be any error lights related to the TPMS?

Madman

Quote from: JWC on February 16, 2009, 05:13:13 PM
One thing I make people aware of, if you buy a used car and the TPMS light is on, check tire pressures BEFORE you buy the car.  If the light will not reset, it has a bad sensor or a missing sensor.

I've had two cars that had custom wheels installed and when it was sold, the originals were put back on with sensors missing.  Very expensive to replace.   I've also had several that tire jockeys have broken the bands when installing new tires.


A perfect example of why I don't want a newer car!

Cheers,
Madman of the People
Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

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Onslaught

Quote from: R-inge on February 15, 2009, 04:14:06 PM
All the newer ones use sensors.  FWIW I think Ford uses a band around the wheel, rather than one that bolts in to the stem hole.
They do. And it looks cheap a shit and I can't believe that it holds.

S204STi

Quote from: Onslaught on February 17, 2009, 01:55:47 PM
They do. And it looks cheap a shit and I can't believe that it holds.

lol Ford ingenuity for teh win.

Raza

Quote from: R-inge on February 15, 2009, 02:25:33 PM
See, that's another thing that bugs me.  I am very reluctant to just replace things based on the fact that the customer is complaining about something.  Yet if I don't throw a part at the problem they piss and moan about it.  I've been bit often enough to know better, so I deal with the complaining.

Ha!  My dealership is really obliging when you complain about something.  My trunk struts froze up, so they put new ones in without me even getting a chance to ask what went wrong with the old ones.  The new ones?  They don't seem any better.  I think it's temperature related, actually.  My trunk opened up fully on a few warmer days. 

My heated mirror stopped working, they put a new one on.  I'm not sure it's working now, or if it just doesn't get as hot as my Passat did (when you heated the mirror, if you touched it, you could readily feel the heat), but since then I haven't had icing problems, so no harm, no foul.  10 minutes in the shop, I wasn't even at the dealer for half an hour before my car was done. 

And rust on a car after 4 years?  I thought my brother's car was bad.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Onslaught

Quote from: R-inge on February 17, 2009, 02:01:52 PM
lol Ford ingenuity for teh win.
You know how it is. Everyone make something one way and it works well. So they have to make something different just to be different.

Kind of like the old twin I-beam

MX793

Quote from: Raza  on February 17, 2009, 02:09:22 PM

And rust on a car after 4 years?  I thought my brother's car was bad.


I attribute part of it to the number of miles I drive on the NY thruway system.  They don't use regular rock salt in the winter, from what I understand.  I can't remember if they're using Calcium Chloride or Magnesium Chloride these days, but both are more corrosive than regular rock salt.  I remember a couple of years ago, whatever they were spraying on the roads would not come off of your windshield using just the sprayers and wipers, you had to scrub it off.  I think they've switched what they're using because the film seems to come off a little easier this year.

However, I'd also say that there are corrosion issues with these cars.  There was no stone chip where the rust started, it started from the inside of the fender.  I try to wash my car fairly regularly (although I won't wash it when temperatures are well below freezing because the doors and windows end up freezing shut).  There are some Canadian owners that had their cars start rusting worse than mine (same parts of the car) after two or years, and one of them claims they washed it weekly and applied rust-proofing annually.
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1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback / 2004 Mazda Mazda3s / 2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium / 2007 Suzuki GSF1250SA Bandit / 2006 VW Jetta 2.5

Secret Chimp

Doesn't Mazda offer a good-sized rust-through warranty? I know Honda does.


Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on January 02, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
That's a great local brewery that we have. Do I drink their beer? No.

MX793

Quote from: Secret Chimp on February 17, 2009, 06:40:03 PM
Doesn't Mazda offer a good-sized rust-through warranty? I know Honda does.

5 year, unlimited miles.  Unfortunately, I don't think there's a hole in the sheetmetal yet (and probably won't be before the 5 year mark, which is coming up in another couple of months).  Canadian owners with rust similar to my own have apparently been told "tough luck" because the warranty is for perforation, not simply corrosion.  I'm going to take it into the dealer and see if they'd be willing to cover fixing it, but I'm not holding my breath.
Needs more Jiggawatts

2016 Ford Mustang GTPP / 2011 Toyota Rav4 Base AWD / 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ABS
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback / 2004 Mazda Mazda3s / 2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium / 2007 Suzuki GSF1250SA Bandit / 2006 VW Jetta 2.5

S204STi

Ah yes, they throw in that "perforation" qualifier, as if that makes it any better.  Dicks.

Secret Chimp

Quote from: MX793 on February 17, 2009, 06:51:50 PM
5 year, unlimited miles.  Unfortunately, I don't think there's a hole in the sheetmetal yet (and probably won't be before the 5 year mark, which is coming up in another couple of months).  Canadian owners with rust similar to my own have apparently been told "tough luck" because the warranty is for perforation, not simply corrosion.  I'm going to take it into the dealer and see if they'd be willing to cover fixing it, but I'm not holding my breath.

Find some acid or some nasty crap to make believable oxidation perforations :P


Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on January 02, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
That's a great local brewery that we have. Do I drink their beer? No.

Onslaught

I've never seen any rust on a new Mazda like that. But then again I don't live up north.
I can't believe they wouldn't fix that. I know if we had a car come in with it they would
down here.

I can plasma cut it some if you need holes.  ;)

AutobahnSHO

Quote from: Onslaught on February 18, 2009, 04:20:20 AM
I can plasma cut it some if you need holes.  ;)

That's what I was thinking, just do it early enough the cut rusts up..   :)
Will

Soup DeVille

Quote from: Raza  on February 17, 2009, 02:09:22 PM
Ha!  My dealership is really obliging when you complain about something.  My trunk struts froze up, so they put new ones in without me even getting a chance to ask what went wrong with the old ones.  The new ones?  They don't seem any better.  I think it's temperature related, actually.  My trunk opened up fully on a few warmer days. 

My heated mirror stopped working, they put a new one on.  I'm not sure it's working now, or if it just doesn't get as hot as my Passat did (when you heated the mirror, if you touched it, you could readily feel the heat), but since then I haven't had icing problems, so no harm, no foul.  10 minutes in the shop, I wasn't even at the dealer for half an hour before my car was done. 

And rust on a car after 4 years?  I thought my brother's car was bad.


My friend's mom bought a Neon new in '98, and there was rust on it when she brought it home from the dealership.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 18, 2009, 03:16:42 PM
My friend's mom bought a Neon new in '98, and there was rust on it when she brought it home from the dealership.

What, on the exhaust manifold?  :evildude:
2008 TUNDRA (Truck Ultra-wideband Never-say-die Daddy Rottweiler Awesome)

Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator