Official 2010 Camaro Review thread

Started by SVT666, March 20, 2009, 04:23:10 PM

68_427

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 05, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
I heard that GM is going to go aluminum on the next half ton truck. Using the leftover steel for future 2+ ton muscle car.

If their latest concepts are anything to go by, they say they can decrease weight by 30% by going with ultra high strength steel.
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: 68_427 on November 05, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
If their latest concepts are anything to go by, they say they can decrease weight by 30% by going with ultra high strength steel.

I'll believe it when I see it, and then only after it can function for more than 3 months without starting on fire.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: 68_427 on November 05, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
If their latest concepts are anything to go by, they say they can decrease weight by 30% by going with ultra high strength steel.

I'd like to see the modulus of elasticity for that steel.
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r0tor

Quote from: 68_427 on November 05, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
If their latest concepts are anything to go by, they say they can decrease weight by 30% by going with ultra high strength steel.

Is that the super cool concept truck job that proclaims steel and iron all over it and then has the chemical formula not of steel, but steel impurities painted all over it?
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68_427

Quote from: r0tor on November 05, 2014, 06:50:42 PM
Is that the super cool concept truck job that proclaims steel and iron all over it and then has the chemical formula not of steel, but steel impurities painted all over it?

Yes
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Sheer General Motors "Toughnology" brilliance


High strength steel is an alloy and not a molecule you farkin idiots... And it sure as fark isn't make of Phosphorous, Oxygen, and Sulphur  :facepalm:
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FoMoJo

Quote from: r0tor on November 05, 2014, 07:21:45 PM
Sheer General Motors "Toughnology" brilliance


High strength steel is an alloy and not a molecule you farkin idiots... And it sure as fark isn't make of Phosphorous, Oxygen, and Sulphur  :facepalm:
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GoCougs

Quote from: 68_427 on November 05, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
If their latest concepts are anything to go by, they say they can decrease weight by 30% by going with ultra high strength steel.

A number of cars have abandoned AL in favor of high strength steel, with the same or better effect on weight savings. Even Ford in its new EB 2.7L V6 went "backward" to an iron block.

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MX793

Quote from: GoCougs on November 05, 2014, 09:29:46 PM
A number of cars have abandoned AL in favor of high strength steel, with the same or better effect on weight savings. Even Ford in its new EB 2.7L V6 went "backward" to an iron block.

Compacted graphite iron casting isn't exactly a traditional iron block.  Aluminum has its place, but in high strength applications it isn't always ideal.  Cast aluminum, in particular, is not especially strong.
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 05, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
I heard that GM is going to go aluminum on the next half ton truck. Using the leftover steel for future 2+ ton muscle car.
Will prob share platform with Camaro given the shoulder height
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GoCougs

Cool video from M/T, esp. the hot lap section: 2015 GT3 vs. 2015 Z/28.

TL;DW - GT3 is the better performer and easier to live with but the Z/28 was more fun, esp. sound and feel. The next Camaro is gonna me monster.


r0tor

Camaro got stomped even with its cheater slicks -shrug-

Nothing to see there... well except an airborn GT3  :popcorn:
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12,000 RPM

So the $150K track car is better than the $70K track car? Cool I never would have figured.
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r0tor

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 28, 2014, 09:16:07 AM
So the $150K track car is better than the $70K track car? Cool I never would have figured.

Yup, and a 6 banger stomps a V8
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 28, 2014, 09:16:07 AM
So the $150K track car is better than the $70K track car? Cool I never would have figured.
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GoCougs

Hmmm. A number of recent Z/28 vids - thought these were played out. Chris Harris: Z/28 vs. 997 GT3 RS. He says the 911 is "technically" (by price I'm guessing) the better car but he preferred the Z/28 experience - motor, tranny, brakes, sound and brutishness - and of course that fact it had the faster lap time ;) (albeit in the wet).

r0tor

You do realize the the 997 GT3RS is 4 years old right?
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r0tor

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on December 28, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
R0tors hate for GM is beyond normal.......

The chemical formula for a CHevy Truck is POS... hey, I didn't make that up, they did
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MX793

Quote from: r0tor on December 29, 2014, 09:16:25 AM
You do realize the the 997 GT3RS is 4 years old right?

And the 997 generation debuted like 10 years ago...
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GoCougs

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on December 28, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
R0tors hate for GM is beyond normal.......

It's fun to watch (though not nearly as much fun as watching FBC)...

GoCougs

Quote from: MX793 on December 29, 2014, 09:36:52 AM
And the 997 generation debuted like 10 years ago...

And the Camaro is seven years old ;).

Harris said he liked/wanted the 997 GT3 RS for the camparo as it is more hardcore than the 991 GT3, and has a traditional M/T.

MX793

Quote from: GoCougs on December 29, 2014, 12:05:09 PM
And the Camaro is seven years old ;).

Harris said he liked/wanted the 997 GT3 RS for the camparo as it is more hardcore than the 991 GT3, and has a traditional M/T.

Camaro came out as a 2010MY vehicle, which makes it 5 years old.  The 997 was a 2004MY vehicle.
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GoCougs

Quote from: MX793 on December 29, 2014, 12:06:49 PM
Camaro came out as a 2010MY vehicle, which makes it 5 years old.  The 997 was a 2004MY vehicle.

The Camaro debuted for sale in April 2009, so that's 9 months in 2009 + full years of 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014, plus it's the same car for MY2015. So, if you insist on being very specific, that is 6 years and 9 months of model years (and I took free license in declaring "seven" years).

r0tor

Im still patiently waiting for your point with these vids... the more expensive porsche is better.  Yippee
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GoCougs

Quote from: r0tor on December 29, 2014, 01:30:20 PM
Im still patiently waiting for your point with these vids... the more expensive porsche is better.  Yippee

I'm hoping for a r0tor rant.

MX793

Quote from: GoCougs on December 29, 2014, 12:59:57 PM
The Camaro debuted for sale in April 2009, so that's 9 months in 2009 + full years of 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014, plus it's the same car for MY2015. So, if you insist on being very specific, that is 6 years and 9 months of model years (and I took free license in declaring "seven" years).

And the 2004MY 911/997 came out in 2003 and with 2015s (now 991) on the market now, that makes it 12 years old.
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FlatBlackCaddy

I just spent 2 weeks in a brand new camaro. Looking to have a review up soon.

I don't want to spoil it but I can tell you the reports are genuine, this thing is fat. I mean HUGE, SUPER FAT. Sure it's solid, but you feel every single one of those 5000lbs.


r0tor

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GoCougs

Quote from: MX793 on December 29, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
And the 2004MY 911/997 came out in 2003 and with 2015s (now 991) on the market now, that makes it 12 years old.

Exactly; the flaw is in the premise.