Jeep Grand Cherokee Revealed!

[2o6]

Yummy.



http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/08/new-york-2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-must-serve-two-masters/

I keep reading BMW X5 in the rear angle, most notably this shot:

[the Teuton]

Well, that M Class in drag looks shockingly nice.

[Tave]

A little nondescript, but not bad. I guess Jeep isn't known for taking huge chances with style.

[S204STi]

I like it!

[omicron]

I like it!

Me too. Simple and handsome. Still not a huge fan of the angled wheelarches contrasting with the round wheels, but it blends in well enough.

[Madman]

Looks good.  But I see no mention of the Mercedes Benz sourced 3.0 litre V6 Turbodiesel which is available in the current model.  I assume this means no diesel Grand Cherokees for North America?  If that's the case then I'm not interested.

No diesel?  No deal.  Big mistake, Chrysler! 


Cheers,
Madman of the People

[SVT666]

Looks good.  But I see no mention of the Mercedes Benz sourced 3.0 litre V6 Turbodiesel which is available in the current model.  I assume this means no diesel Grand Cherokees for North America?  If that's the case then I'm not interested.

No diesel?  No deal.  Big mistake, Chrysler! 


Cheers,
Madman of the People

Why do you want a diesel so bad?

[Tave]

No diesel?  No deal.  Big mistake, Chrysler! 

Name me a single competitor in the US market that offers a diesel option.

[Madman]

Name me a single competitor in the US market that offers a diesel option.

Okay.........




Cheers,
Madman of the People

[hotrodalex]

Nice!

[bing_oh]

Well, that M Class in drag looks shockingly nice.

I'm not sure that it looks like an M-Class. I think it's more of just a refined, snooty-looking Grand Cherokee. Not a supermodel, but's it's definitely an attractive girl next door. I like.

[93JC]

Why do you want a diesel so bad?

'Cause it's all 'Euro' and shit.

[Tave]

Okay.........




Cheers,
Madman of the People

Why don't you check the MSRP on that, Madman.

[Vinsanity]

Me too. Simple and handsome. Still not a huge fan of the angled wheelarches contrasting with the round wheels, but it blends in well enough.

shouldn't be a problem once you swap in a set of square wheels

[ifcar]

Looks good.  But I see no mention of the Mercedes Benz sourced 3.0 litre V6 Turbodiesel which is available in the current model.  I assume this means no diesel Grand Cherokees for North America?  If that's the case then I'm not interested.

No diesel?  No deal.  Big mistake, Chrysler! 


Cheers,
Madman of the People

What, you were about to sign the check for one?

[2o6]

Looks good.  But I see no mention of the Mercedes Benz sourced 3.0 litre V6 Turbodiesel which is available in the current model.  I assume this means no diesel Grand Cherokees for North America?  If that's the case then I'm not interested.

No diesel?  No deal.  Big mistake, Chrysler! 


Cheers,
Madman of the People

Why? So Chrysler can please the two people that bought them?

[TBR]

I really like, and didn't even have to warm up to it like I did the 1st and 3rd gen GCs.

[Catman]

Looks good.  Where's the new Explorer?

[Madman]

Why don't you check the MSRP on that, Madman.

Here you go, prices of both vehicles with the running boards/side steps I would want.

2009 Mercedes Benz ML320 BlueTEC AWD, Base MSRP:        $48,600
Running boards:                                                         + $    650
Total:                                                                         $49.250

2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland CRD 4X4, Base MSRP:   $45,855
Side Steps:                                                               + $   995
Total:                                                                         $46,850

That's exactly $2,400 difference between the two.  Not a huge difference, is there?  Anyway, it's a moot point since "Due to certification issues", Chrysler stopped taking orders for the 3.0 turbo diesel as of 4th February 2009.  Damn EPA bastards!!!


Cheers,
Madman of the People

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Here you go, prices of both vehicles with the running boards/side steps I would want.

2009 Mercedes Benz ML320 BlueTEC AWD, Base MSRP:        $48,600
Running boards:                                                         + $    650
Total:                                                                         $49.250

2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland CRD 4X4, Base MSRP:   $45,855
Side Steps:                                                               + $   995
Total:                                                                         $46,850

They will throw snowballs in hell before I pay almost 50 large for a Cherokee.

[Vinsanity]

They will throw snowballs in hell before I pay almost 50 large for a Cherokee.

Agreed. No wonder they stopped offering the diesel. It's a ripoff.

[Madman]

Agreed. No wonder they stopped offering the diesel. It's a ripoff.

How's the diesel a ripoff when the Hemi V8 Overland costs almost as much? 


Cheers,
Madman of the People

[Vinsanity]

How's the diesel a ripoff when the Hemi V8 Overland costs almost as much? 

How much is the price difference between the diesel M-class and the V8 M-class?

[MaxPower]

I like it; it's a good evolution of the design.  The only thing I'd do differently is try to lower the visual height of the front bumper.  The interior looks nicer than the current generation, hopefully it'll feel nicer too.

[Eye of the Tiger]

It doesn't even have anything close to A/T tires. What a pile of crap.

[IrishGuy]

That's fantastic looking.

[Madman]

How much is the price difference between the diesel M-class and the V8 M-class?

2009 Mercedes Benz ML320 BlueTEC 4Matic, Base MSRP:  $48,600
Fuel consumption: 18 MPG City, 24 MPG Highway

2009 Mercedes Benz ML550 4Matic, Base MSRP:              $55,800
Fuel consumption:  13 MPG City, 18 MPG Highway

Oh, not only does the turbo diesel cost less, it produces more torque, too!  398 lb.ft. versus 391 lb.ft.

Turbo Diesel > Gasoline/Petrol 


Cheers,
Madman of the People

[TBR]

2009 Mercedes Benz ML320 BlueTEC 4Matic, Base MSRP:  $48,600
Fuel consumption: 18 MPG City, 24 MPG Highway

2009 Mercedes Benz ML550 4Matic, Base MSRP:              $55,800
Fuel consumption:  13 MPG City, 18 MPG Highway

Oh, not only does the turbo diesel cost less, it produces more torque, too!  398 lb.ft. versus 391 lb.ft.

Turbo Diesel > Gasoline/Petrol 


Cheers,
Madman of the People

And is significantly slower. The proper comparison to make is ML350 vs. ML320 CDI and the ML350 is cheaper and is still faster.

I wouldn't buy a CDI vehicle unless it actually made sense from a cost perspective, for most people the ML350 CDI (and GC CDI) are not going to make financial sense compared to the similar performing V6 models.

[SVT666]

And is significantly slower. The proper comparison to make is ML350 vs. ML320 CDI and the ML350 is cheaper and is still faster.

I wouldn't buy a CDI vehicle unless it actually made sense from a cost perspective, for most people the ML350 CDI (and GC CDI) are not going to make financial sense compared to the similar performing V6 models.

Since when does saving a few bucks on a tank of fuel come into play when we're talking $50,000+ vehicles?

[SVT666]

I like it; it's a good evolution of the design.  The only thing I'd do differently is try to lower the visual height of the front bumper.