Little something a friend of mine picked up...

[S204STi]

In case you haven't noticed, I was in love with the G8 GT.  I wanted one so bad I could hardly think of anything else.  I had one as my signature for a while.  Then I drove the V6 version and reality slapped me in the face.  It ain't that good.  So I thought, "Maybe it's just the V6 version".  So I took a G8 GT for a test drive.  Yes it was blazing fast, but the steering still sucked, the interior materials are still shit, the body roll was unacceptable, and you feel every single one of those 4000 lbs.  It was disappointing.  There are lots of highs to this car though.

Like I said though, with the current discounts ($9500 here) I would pick one up in a heartbeat if I was in the market.  But at full pop, I would rather spring for the G37 sedan.

Again, you speak in absolutes as if your opinion on the matter is final.  All of the things you criticize are subjective, and things that another driver may not mind.

For example, I believe it has a good ride/handling trade-off.  You can feel the car's weight shift around, but in reality it settles into a neutral stance, which tells me that it has good fundamental steering and suspension geometry for street use.  It trades off a little more roll couple for a ride that isn't punishing, and a steering gear ratio that isn't razor sharp so that you can actually drive it comfortably all day long without constantly fighting to keep it in line, a la the Evo or other such cars. 

Interior quality is subjective as well.  I think it is well built where it matters (I don't grab hold of shit and yank it at random like some of you guys, so I don't care if the center console wobbles when you grab it), it looks good if a bit dour, and it functions well.

I guess the reason I'm going off on this tangent on this thread is that you are so outspoken in your opinion for the car that you drown out all others, which is a form of trolling.  Anytime it's mentioned in a thread you must immediately set everybody straight about the car, when in reality yours is not the only opinion that matters on something as subjective as handling, steering feel, and interior design.

[the Teuton]

And to think, everyone hates my opinions of another make and silences me when I am outspoken about it.  Yet when someone else does it with another make, it's fine.

I've a few times I realize, but I'm not the only one.

[Vinsanity]

Even in jaded ass downtown Manhattan they turn heads. You guys are nuts.

That's because 75% of the car population there is Crown Victorias, 20% Lincoln Town Cars, and 4% Toyota Siennas.

[565]

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I totally and completely agree.  I was just about to mention that the R8 and NSX were very similar in spirit.  Both were made by luxury automakers not known for making such expensive cars.  Both were built as a celebration for racing success, Honda for F1, and Audi for their R8 Lemans domination.  Both are very refined, user friendly, and well balanced.  Both are rather rare and exclusive.  Finally both aren't as fast in a straightline as their similarly priced competition.  Does that mean that they aren't amazing cars? Of course not, both are great cars.

[Cookie Monster]

Man, I wonder if we'll ever go back to the days of great styling and low slung cars.

[SVT666]

Again, you speak in absolutes as if your opinion on the matter is final.  All of the things you criticize are subjective, and things that another driver may not mind.

For example, I believe it has a good ride/handling trade-off.  You can feel the car's weight shift around, but in reality it settles into a neutral stance, which tells me that it has good fundamental steering and suspension geometry for street use.  It trades off a little more roll couple for a ride that isn't punishing, and a steering gear ratio that isn't razor sharp so that you can actually drive it comfortably all day long without constantly fighting to keep it in line, a la the Evo or other such cars. 

Interior quality is subjective as well.  I think it is well built where it matters (I don't grab hold of shit and yank it at random like some of you guys, so I don't care if the center console wobbles when you grab it), it looks good if a bit dour, and it functions well.

I guess the reason I'm going off on this tangent on this thread is that you are so outspoken in your opinion for the car that you drown out all others, which is a form of trolling.  Anytime it's mentioned in a thread you must immediately set everybody straight about the car, when in reality yours is not the only opinion that matters on something as subjective as handling, steering feel, and interior design.

That's no different then how anyone else expresses their opinions on cars here.

BTW, I am the authority.

[Raza]

That statement makes sense to me because most Porsches look alike, whereas the NSX is obviously unlike any other in the Acura line.


I don't follow. How can someone think a car is a Ferrari for a second, an then think that it's an Integra? Did I miss another one of your signature hyperbolic statements?


The NSX is more exclusive than the Boxster. The NSX is also more exclusive than the Carerra. Sorry you took such offense to my short-hand statement that the NSX is more exclusive than a Porsche.

I didn't take offense, everyone else did when I said the NSX isn't going to impress anyone who doesn't know what it is already. 

[Raza]

That's like saying the Ford GT isn't exclusive because there are hundreds of millions of Fords on public roads.  That's stupid.

It's only exclusive to the people who know. 

[Raza]

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Man, the NSX-T is so gorgeous though. 

At the right price, I might have to take back everything I've said about the car. 

I mean, look at it compared the R8.  I like the R8.  But compared to the NSX?  No contest.  As long as it's the cleaner flip-up lamp model.

[Cookie Monster]

I didn't take offense, everyone else did when I said the NSX isn't going to impress anyone who doesn't know what it is already. 

I know what it is and I'm always impressed and it turns my head when I see an NSX.

[Raza]

I know what it is and I'm always impressed and it turns my head when I see an NSX.

As am I.  I'm not talking about you. 

[Cookie Monster]

As am I.  I'm not talking about you. 

Oops, double negative.

[Vinsanity]

I didn't take offense, everyone else did when I said the NSX isn't going to impress anyone who doesn't know what it is already. 

I disagree in that it's a pretty impressive-looking car regardless of whether people actually know what it is. Some people still do think that it's a Ferrari because of it's low-slung mid-engine shape. This is not something that happens often with Fieros and MR2's.

[S204STi]

I totally and completely agree.  I was just about to mention that the R8 and NSX were very similar in spirit.  Both were made by luxury automakers not known for making such expensive cars.  Both were built as a celebration for racing success, Honda for F1, and Audi for their R8 Lemans domination.  Both are very refined, user friendly, and well balanced.  Both are rather rare and exclusive.  Finally both aren't as fast in a straightline as their similarly priced competition.  Does that mean that they aren't amazing cars? Of course not, both are great cars.

The R8 also falls victim to something similar to the NSX, which is that because some cheaper cars perform similarly or better on paper that it makes people question the high MSRP.  Cars like the GT-R, Corvette, etc. and even to a lesser extent the rally replicars.

[Raza]

Oops, double negative.

Hmm? 

I was saying that I am impressed by the car when I see it. 

But then I said that since you know what it is, I'm not talking about you when I talk about people who won't be impressed.

I just used fewer words.

[Raza]

I disagree in that it's a pretty impressive-looking car regardless of whether people actually know what it is. Some people still do think that it's a Ferrari because of it's low-slung mid-engine shape. This is not something that happens often with Fieros and MR2's.

Sure, until people figure out it's an Acura. 

[Vinsanity]

Sure, until people figure out it's an Acura. 

I bet people would be more impressed by an NSX than by a Boxster

[Raza]

I bet people would be more impressed by an NSX than by a Boxster

Doubt it. 

"An NSX?  Oh, my son/daughter has an RSX.  Looks a little different though."

[Payman]

Did a quick check on Auto Trader. Cheapest NSX there is a 1991 with 91,000 kms for $36,900. I can't think of another car, short of a Ferrari, that's held its value so well.

[S204STi]

I bet people would be more impressed by an NSX than by a Boxster

Probably depends on what impresses people.  I think the Boxster is a nicer looking car, but the NSX is certainly more exotic looking.  If that gets your blood flowing then great.

[the Teuton]

Did a quick check on Auto Trader. Cheapest NSX there is a 1991 with 91,000 kms for $36,900. I can't think of another car, short of a Ferrari, that's held its value so well.

Supra, Defender.

[S204STi]

Did a quick check on Auto Trader. Cheapest NSX there is a 1991 with 91,000 kms for $36,900. I can't think of another car, short of a Ferrari, that's held its value so well.

That's quite a bit more expensive than I expected.  I had read that you could find good examples for $25k.

[Raza]

That's quite a bit more expensive than I expected.  I had read that you could find good examples for $25k.

I saw a couple first year models for 22 a few years back.  I thought it was a screaming deal until I realized it was a 15 year old car that would get its ass handed to it by a C5 Corvette that will be easier and cheaper to maintain. 

[Payman]

Doubt it. 

"An NSX?  Oh, my son/daughter has an RSX.  Looks a little different though."

Agree. Public stoopid. They can't comprehend beyond Acura vs Porsche.

[Raza]

Agree. Public stoopid. They can't comprehend beyond Acura vs Porsche.

That's all I'm saying.  Seconds later, everyone's nailing me to this giant plus sign and sticking a spear in my side.

[Payman]

Supra, Defender.

True.

As for $20K NSX's, I read in a tuner magazine where they had a $25K ceiling to buy the best tuner platforms they could find. The NSX one guy bought for 25K turned out to be a real basket case, akin to picking up a $1000 Prelude.

[Raza]

True.

As for $20K NSX's, I read in a tuner magazine where they had a $25K ceiling to buy the best tuner platforms they could find. The NSX one guy bought for 25K turned out to be a real basket case, akin to picking up a $1000 Prelude.

Although, according to Clarkson, at the time of the NSX's death, there had not been a single VTEC failure.  That's pretty impressive. 

I also remember reading that something like 75-80% of all Porsches ever sold were still on the road today.  That's also impressive.

[VTEC_Inside]

That's quite a bit more expensive than I expected.  I had read that you could find good examples for $25k.

That $36,900 is in Canadian dollars.

FWIW, my buddy paid less than that and got:
-the original wheels (with worn out rubber on them), Fiske wheels on it
-the original suspension, full Tein suspension on it
-the original exhaust manifolds, DC sports headers on it along with some fancy stainless exhaust.
-the car cover
-all three original keys, the owners manual, etc....

His is a '92 that turned over 91,000kms on our way home that day.

[Raza]

Three keys?  Two remotes and a wallet?

[VTEC_Inside]

Three keys?  Two remotes and a wallet?

Two master including the original Monel metal key:


The Valet key, and one of the original remotes (I dunno if they came with two or not)