Buying a Sports Car

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Its black, thats perfect, where is that one at?

Anyway i've always thought of the M coupe as the best hatchback ever made. I'm a rally fan and some of the rally hatches are pretty sweet but that M Coupe is just sooo hot.

[280Z Turbo]

I like the Z3 coupe. I don't think you get it unless you're familiar with the classic MGB GT.

[JYODER240]

I like the Z3 coupe. I don't think you get it unless you're familiar with the classic MGB GT.

must be why i've never cared for its design  

[ifcar]

Its black, thats perfect, where is that one at?

If the license plates are any indication, North Carolina.    

[TBR]

I would like to note that the car pictured is not a M Coupe, it is a Z3 Coupe with the 3.0l I6. This is the only M Coupe I could find within 300 miles of St. Paul:
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=300

[TBR]

Here are some from across the nation:
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1005
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1523
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=922
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=512

Even if that car had been a real M Coupe I wouldn't have bought it. M Coupes are high risk cars, there would have been a reason that price is so low.

[BMWDave]

Here are some from across the nation:
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1005
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1523
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=922
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=512

Even if that car had been a real M Coupe I wouldn't have bought it. M Coupes are high risk cars, there would have been a reason that price is so low.

I was wondering why the price was so low, its only 17K when the other ones are going for about 30K.

[MX793]

Its pretty cool that youre looking at a Z.? Perhaps you should try to buy an M Coupe through BMW CPO, and thus you get a full warranty.? I may very well buy an M Coupe myself in a year or so.

Just keep in mind that 2001+ model year vehicles had an engine transplant, and got the new 315hp I6 from the M3.?

And off the record, I'd take an M coupe over a Z anyday

I don't know which car will handle better.  The 350Z may be heavy at 3200lbs, but the M coupe has a suspension out of an E30 or E36 3 series.  Weight might beat age.

It was an E36.  And almost every review said the handling is razar sharp.  It also weights less than a Z.  Were not talking about big age here...the last M came out in 2002.

Unless they changed the rear suspension in the M coupe, the rear suspension of the Z3 came from the E30 3 series of the 1980s.  I distinctly remember reading C&D complain that the suspension was a bit choppy in the Z3 compared to the E36 3 series because it was using older architecture.

[Raza]

This is a nice 2001 Coupe





Its only going for 17K and it only has 25K miles.  Its a steal if its in good condition.

That's not an M coupe, it's a Z3 3.0i coupe.  It's got 215bhp, I believe.  

[Raza]

Its pretty cool that youre looking at a Z.  Perhaps you should try to buy an M Coupe through BMW CPO, and thus you get a full warranty.  I may very well buy an M Coupe myself in a year or so.

Just keep in mind that 2001+ model year vehicles had an engine transplant, and got the new 315hp I6 from the M3. 

And off the record, I'd take an M coupe over a Z anyday

I don't know which car will handle better.  The 350Z may be heavy at 3200lbs, but the M coupe has a suspension out of an E30 or E36 3 series.  Weight might beat age.

It was an E36.  And almost every review said the handling is razar sharp.  It also weights less than a Z.  Were not talking about big age here...the last M came out in 2002.

Unless they changed the rear suspension in the M coupe, the rear suspension of the Z3 came from the E30 3 series of the 1980s.  I distinctly remember reading C&D complain that the suspension was a bit choppy in the Z3 compared to the E36 3 series because it was using older architecture.

That's what I thought I was remembering as well.  I guess I did remember afterall.

[Raza]

Here are some from across the nation:
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1005
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1523
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=922
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=512

Even if that car had been a real M Coupe I wouldn't have bought it. M Coupes are high risk cars, there would have been a reason that price is so low.

I was wondering why the price was so low, its only 17K when the other ones are going for about 30K.

Well, it's not hard to find an M coupe for under 15 grand, if you don't mind the 240bhp E36 engine.  It's still bloody fast (0-60 in under 5 seconds, if I recall correctly) and you're getting arguably more car for the money.

I love the M coupe because it's a lot like a wagon.  It's a super fast sports coupe with a hatch that doesn't look like it could destroy you, but yes it can.  I still want to pick one of these up someday.  

Tim:  What do you mean by a high risk car?  For theft?  

[ifcar]

Perhaps he's referring to the risk of abuse.  

[Raza]

Perhaps he's referring to the risk of abuse.

Ahh.  Anything that's under 60 grand and sporty would probably have some abuse to it--the M3, the M coupes, the C class AMGs, Corvettes and especially the STi, Evo, and SRT-4.  But if you look at the demographics, the M coupe buyers tend to be older and more responsible (and less likely to do risky modifications to the car), and the Bimmer can handle a little abuse now and then.

[SJ_GTI]

A real man would get the Z06.

That's the dumbest shit I've heard today.

That was only because you hadn't gotten to my "german racing car" comment yet though, to be fair.

[TBR]

Perhaps he's referring to the risk of abuse.

Ahh.  Anything that's under 60 grand and sporty would probably have some abuse to it--the M3, the M coupes, the C class AMGs, Corvettes and especially the STi, Evo, and SRT-4.  But if you look at the demographics, the M coupe buyers tend to be older and more responsible (and less likely to do risky modifications to the car), and the Bimmer can handle a little abuse now and then.

I would probably consider the STi, Evo, and SRT-4 to be slightly higher risk than the M coupe but the M3, C-class AMGs, and Corvettes to be lower risk. Either way, if you find any car with a remarkably low price it is a good idea to stay away.

[BMWDave]

Here are some from across the nation:
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1005
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1523
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=922
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=512

Even if that car had been a real M Coupe I wouldn't have bought it. M Coupes are high risk cars, there would have been a reason that price is so low.

I was wondering why the price was so low, its only 17K when the other ones are going for about 30K.

Well, it's not hard to find an M coupe for under 15 grand, if you don't mind the 240bhp E36 engine.  It's still bloody fast (0-60 in under 5 seconds, if I recall correctly) and you're getting arguably more car for the money.

I love the M coupe because it's a lot like a wagon.  It's a super fast sports coupe with a hatch that doesn't look like it could destroy you, but yes it can.  I still want to pick one of these up someday.  

Tim:  What do you mean by a high risk car?  For theft?

The 240 hp M Coupe got to 60 in 5.3 seconds.  

Its also the second most stolen car, I believe.

[Raza]

A real man would get the Z06.

That's the dumbest shit I've heard today.

That was only because you hadn't gotten to my "german racing car" comment yet though, to be fair.

True.  I didn't mean to be so rough on you though.  

[SJ_GTI]

A real man would get the Z06.

That's the dumbest shit I've heard today.

That was only because you hadn't gotten to my "german racing car" comment yet though, to be fair.

True.  I didn't mean to be so rough on you though.

It was very hurtful, and it took me a good 2 hours before the tears in my eyes were clear enough to be able to type my response.

Thanks for the apology, I feel much better now.

[Raghavan]

A real man would get the Z06.

That's the dumbest shit I've heard today.

That was only because you hadn't gotten to my "german racing car" comment yet though, to be fair.

True.  I didn't mean to be so rough on you though.

It was very hurtful, and it took me a good 2 hours before the tears in my eyes were clear enough to be able to type my response.

Thanks for the apology, I feel much better now.

so then why'd you reply a day later?  

[Raza]

A real man would get the Z06.

That's the dumbest shit I've heard today.

That was only because you hadn't gotten to my "german racing car" comment yet though, to be fair.

True.  I didn't mean to be so rough on you though.

It was very hurtful, and it took me a good 2 hours before the tears in my eyes were clear enough to be able to type my response.

Thanks for the apology, I feel much better now.

so then why'd you reply a day later?

He's a slow typer.

[Raza]

Someone probably beat the piss out of it for 25k miles.  You can get a new GTO with equal power for a better price.

And with that many miles you only have a little bit of warranty left. I didn't realize it was such high-mileage. I figured a Z06 would have been a weekend toy...

I agree with the GTO if it was me, but its not a sports car.  <_<

Neither is the Z or Z06.

:o  

[ifcar]

Here we go again.

[Raza]

Here we go again.

:D  

[Raghavan]

Here we go again.

:D

 

[Cobra93]

Well i found it on there website(i figured the price was wrong)

2004 Z06

It's not an 04. It's an 02. Check the VIN. And their ad. B)  

[Cobra93]

Which means you can buy them all day long on Ebay for low 30's.  

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Well i found it on there website(i figured the price was wrong)

2004 Z06

It's not an 04. It's an 02. Check the VIN. And their ad. B)

I had a feeling after i talked to the guy he was off alittle on the numbers(price, etc).

[JYODER240]

Well i found it on there website(i figured the price was wrong)

2004 Z06

It's not an 04. It's an 02. Check the VIN. And their ad. B)

Did the 02's have the 405hp or 385hp?

[Cobra93]

Well i found it on there website(i figured the price was wrong)

2004 Z06

It's not an 04. It's an 02. Check the VIN. And their ad. B)

Did the 02's have the 405hp or 385hp?

I think they were 405. I believe only the '01 had 385 HP.

[TBR]

Check this one out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-Chevro...1QQcmdZViewItem