Just ownt my car

[SVT_Power]

I got H rated tires just yesterday and had them put in the back thinking the front with the Z rated tires would make the car generally neutral. Well I was wrong.

Went around a roundabout a little too fast, the rear came around and luckily (somewhat) enough the corner of the curb only hit the rear wheel so the body has no damage at all. But now the rear wheel is not straight. I guess I'm getting new control arms for the rear.

Frig I should've just coughed up a bit more for better tires up front and put the not as good Z rated tires in the rear...

From what I've searched so far, it seems like most people just have to change the rear control arm in cases like this. I guess I'll check the sway bar to see if it got damaged as well but HOPEFULLY it's only the CA...

[ifcar]

My Focus won't take a cloverleaf interchange in wet weather without trying to spin out. (Hasn't hit anything yet though!) The tires appeared to be new when I got it, but they're evidently not great tires.

[Raza]

I ran much grippier tires at the front of my Passat than the rear for three years.  Got the back end out dozens of times. 

Never crashed. 

[S204STi]

You may not have bent anything... See if it can be adjusted first.  Take it to a good alignment place.

[SVT_Power]

I ran much grippier tires at the front of my Passat than the rear for three years.  Got the back end out dozens of times. 

Never crashed. 

you're either lucky as shit or you do it in parking lots...

[The Pirate]

You may not have bent anything... See if it can be adjusted first.  Take it to a good alignment place.

Maybe just a bent wheel, if anything.  I bent a wheel once, everything else was okay.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I got H rated tires just yesterday and had them put in the back thinking the front with the Z rated tires would make the car generally neutral. Well I was wrong.

Went around a roundabout a little too fast, the rear came around and luckily (somewhat) enough the corner of the curb only hit the rear wheel so the body has no damage at all. But now the rear wheel is not straight. I guess I'm getting new control arms for the rear.

Frig I should've just coughed up a bit more for better tires up front and put the not as good Z rated tires in the rear...

From what I've searched so far, it seems like most people just have to change the rear control arm in cases like this. I guess I'll check the sway bar to see if it got damaged as well but HOPEFULLY it's only the CA...

Speed rating doesn't mean crap. Learn how to drive.
Next time the rear end starts to come around, throttle out of it. Same goes for you, Ifcar.

[Raza]

you're either lucky as shit very good or you do it in parking lots fucking great...

Somewhere in the middle. 

Once you learn to drive, it's really quite easy. 

[Minpin]

+1 to getting an alignment first.

[SVT_Power]

but the thing is there seems to be some play in the rear wheel. Might be bushings done as well.

I'm gonna have it aligned ASAP (maybe tmr) and see how that goes

[ifcar]

Speed rating doesn't mean crap. Learn how to drive.
Next time the rear end starts to come around, throttle out of it. Same goes for you, Ifcar.

I've been able to correct with just some steering. You can't really accelerate while you're still in the tight part of the cloverleaf, not in wet weather.

[280Z Turbo]

My Focus won't take a cloverleaf interchange in wet weather without trying to spin out. (Hasn't hit anything yet though!) The tires appeared to be new when I got it, but they're evidently not great tires.

That's not right. I can take some entrance ramps flat out.

I've never had oversteer in my car without the handbrake, but it loves to understeer. The rear end has a tendency to side-step when it hits a bump in a high speed turn, but that's just a normal Focus quirk.

[S204STi]

but the thing is there seems to be some play in the rear wheel. Might be bushings done as well.

I'm gonna have it aligned ASAP (maybe tmr) and see how that goes

Loose?  Yikes.  You broke something then.

[SVT_Power]

Loose?  Yikes.  You broke something then.

i wouldn't say loose...

well when i kick the left rear wheel there's no play at all. but with the right one there's ever so much play and I think it's gonna be something that needs to be replaced...

[ifcar]

That's not right. I can take some entrance ramps flat out.

Big deal. I get better gas mileage than you do. I just need to be more careful when it rains.

[280Z Turbo]

Big deal. I get better gas mileage than you do. I just need to be more careful when it rains.

That wasn't the point. Read my post. Your car should not be oversteering.

[ifcar]

That wasn't the point. Read my post. Your car should not be oversteering.

Oh, I know.

[TBR]

The better tires should be on the back.

[SVT_Power]

The better tires should be on the back.

but if they were in the back, i would've massively understeered into the curb. that would've been fucking ugly...

[hotrodalex]

The better tires should be on the back.

That's no fun.

but if they were in the back, i would've massively understeered into the curb. that would've been fucking ugly...

Drive slower...

[sparkplug]

Reset the playstation.

[Raza]

That's no fun.

Drive slower better...

Fixed.

[Tave]

Maybe just a bent wheel, if anything.  I bent a wheel once, everything else was okay.

I bent my left right and rear axle a few years ago having too much fun in the snow. The alignment shop got me a new wheel and put a shim on the axle. Feels fine now.

[Tave]

Isn't it sort of silly to put the stickier compounds on your non-drive wheels?

[Raza]

Isn't it sort of silly to put the stickier compounds on your non-drive wheels?

For "safety", it makes sense.  It's generally accepted that understeer is safer than oversteer.  Better to crash on your side of the road, perhaps? 

[RomanChariot]

Tire manufacturers recommend putting your best tires on the back of all vehicles to avoid oversteer as oversteer is harder to control than udersteer, especially in wet or snowy conditions.

[S204STi]

That can have its faults; typically people wait too long to rotate tires, at which point your front axle is 2-3/32" below the rears.  I still rotate them in that case, putting the better ones on front so the tire set lasts as long as possible.

[TBR]

For "safety", it makes sense.  It's generally accepted that understeer is safer than oversteer.  Better to crash on your side of the road, perhaps? 

I think understeer is just more predictable and tends to not occur as rapidly.

[hotrodalex]

It's easier for most people to correct understeer, as it can be fixed with a gentle tap on the brakes in most cases. Oversteer usually requires more precise countersteering and throttle control.

Oversteer is more fun.

[hotrodalex]

Fixed.

I figure it's easier to teach him to drive slower vs better.