Aston Martin readying Toyota iQ-based city car

Started by SVT666, June 29, 2009, 08:56:30 AM

Raza

Quote from: thecarnut on June 29, 2009, 03:17:41 PM
Wait the iQ is a 3 seater?


WTF...

"Other pieces of iQ intelligence? Clever shaping of the dashboard and footwell lets the front passenger sit further forward than the driver, which means there?s space for an adult to sit behind. Anyone aft of the driver needs to be very young and slender of leg, however."
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

TBR

Quote from: thecarnut on June 29, 2009, 03:17:41 PM
Wait the iQ is a 3 seater?


WTF...

3+1. The front seats are staggered with the passenger seat being significantly further forward than the driver seat. This makes the driver side rear seat pretty much useless.

ifcar

Quote from: TBR on June 29, 2009, 03:15:53 PM
$20k if it was simply an iQ with an Aston Martin badge, but it isn't. It will have a significantly revised exterior and a completely different, much posher interior. On an absolute level, whatever is left over will be a relatively small margin.

It doesn't cost more to build a more stylish exterior, and the interior won't be $20,000 worth of posh. They'll make huge profits per vehicle.

TBR

Quote from: ifcar on June 29, 2009, 03:20:37 PM
It doesn't cost more to build a more stylish exterior, and the interior won't be $20,000 worth of posh. They'll make huge profits per vehicle.

Stamping costs are significant for a low volume car.

I am not saying that they won't make money on the cars, they will. But I think their efforts would best be focused on something that would allow bigger margins without tarnishing the Aston Martin reputation (and if you think a 3-cylinder subcompact won't do that then you are insane).

the Teuton

Quote from: ifcar on June 29, 2009, 03:20:37 PM
It doesn't cost more to build a more stylish exterior, and the interior won't be $20,000 worth of posh. They'll make huge profits per vehicle.

Iffy, there is no jagged question following this, but here it is:  Have you ever been to a country club?

After you or whoever else wants to answer answers, I'll explain why I asked that question.  It pertains to this car a whole heck of a lot.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
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Cookie Monster

Quote from: Raza  on June 29, 2009, 03:19:41 PM
"Other pieces of iQ intelligence? Clever shaping of the dashboard and footwell lets the front passenger sit further forward than the driver, which means there?s space for an adult to sit behind. Anyone aft of the driver needs to be very young and slender of leg, however."
That seems pretty dumb. Are there any interior pics?
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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SVT666

Quote from: TBR on June 29, 2009, 03:20:19 PM
3+1. The front seats are staggered with the passenger seat being significantly further forward than the driver seat. This makes the driver side rear seat pretty much useless.
Won't that be a hindrance to the driver's ability to see out the passenger side of the car?  I'm tall so I sit further back then most already.  If my passenger is sitting further forward then me, that's going to be a visibility issue.

Raza

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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

the Teuton

In any case, rich people with more money than sense will jump at this on first sight as an urban runabout.  And I bet resale value stays incredibly high for a long time to come.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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2 4 R

Cookie Monster

Quote from: HEMI666 on June 29, 2009, 03:29:26 PM
Won't that be a hindrance to the driver's ability to see out the passenger side of the car?  I'm tall so I sit further back then most already.  If my passenger is sitting further forward then me, that's going to be a visibility issue.
Yeah, that's a good point. It's even worse if I'm trying to turn onto a road, and I'm looking both ways to see if there are cars coming and my passenger does the same thing. :rage:

My dad does that and then I yell at him that the view of the back of his head doesn't do me much good while I'm driving.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

Raza

Quote from: thecarnut on June 29, 2009, 04:10:27 PM
Ah, I see.

It kind of looks like a great way to make more people less comfortable, really.  I know she's smiling in that picture, but I can't imagine she'd be like that for long outside of a short city trip.

And therein lies the problem with city cars.  Why buy a car with such narrowly defined parameters when you could buy a slightly larger car for only slightly more money (Aygo, C1, Fox, et al) that can actually deal with motorway journeys and keep up with traffic that goes over 30?
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

ifcar

Quote from: the Teuton on June 29, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
Iffy, there is no jagged question following this, but here it is:  Have you ever been to a country club?

After you or whoever else wants to answer answers, I'll explain why I asked that question.  It pertains to this car a whole heck of a lot.

Are you suggesting that these should be golf carts?


I've only been to the somewhat downscale country club near my home.

the Teuton

#43
Quote from: ifcar on June 29, 2009, 04:44:51 PM
Are you suggesting that these should be golf carts?


I've only been to the somewhat downscale country club near my home.

No, I'm more talking about Coca-Cola.  A can of Coke is .50 in a pop machine.  A 12 oz. glass of Coke at your average country club is $2.

Exclusivity breeds exclusivity breeds arrogance breeds frivolous spending.  You're paying to get into a hoity toity club, and then you're paying way too much for a drink just because you can.  The price of this rinky dink car means nothing.  It's the badge.  So yeah, it's going to become a completely overpriced urban runabout.  But it's going to be completely worth it in interior materials and exclusivity alone.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

CALL_911

Quote from: the Teuton on June 29, 2009, 04:58:05 PM
No, I'm more talking about Coca-Cola.  A can of Coke is .50 in a pop machine.  A 12 oz. glass of Coke at your average country club is $2.

Exclusivity breeds exclusivity breeds arrogance breeds frivolous spending.  You're paying to get into a hoity toity club, and then you're paying way too much for a drink just because you can.  The price of this rinky dink car means nothing.  It's the badge.  So yeah, it's going to become a completely overpriced urban runabout.  But it's going to be completely worth it in nothing more than interior materials and exclusivity.

I don't know what kind of soda machine you go to, but I've NEVER seen a can of Coke for 50?.


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the Teuton

Quote from: CALL_911 on June 29, 2009, 04:59:23 PM
I don't know what kind of soda machine you go to, but I've NEVER seen a can of Coke for 50?.

That's because you live in Long Island.  Okay, adjust the prices to .75 and $3 for you.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

mojammer

#46
I don't think they're trying to make another Aston Martin.  This is an amenity to their actual cars.  That's why it's only for already-owners.
I bet it'll end up being a good business move for them.

Aston's watch is more expensive than the Cygnet.
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Quote from: the Teuton on June 29, 2009, 04:58:05 PM
No, I'm more talking about Coca-Cola.  A can of Coke is .50 in a pop machine.  A 12 oz. glass of Coke at your average country club is $2.

Exclusivity breeds exclusivity breeds arrogance breeds frivolous spending.  You're paying to get into a hoity toity club, and then you're paying way too much for a drink just because you can.  The price of this rinky dink car means nothing.  It's the badge.  So yeah, it's going to become a completely overpriced urban runabout.  But it's going to be completely worth it in interior materials and exclusivity alone.

I didn't say otherwise.

2o6

Quote from: thecarnut on June 29, 2009, 10:17:49 AM
Is the iQ RWD?

This thing better have 250 + hp and a 6 speed manual.

The iQ's an FF.

68_427

Quote from: the Teuton on June 29, 2009, 05:00:39 PM
That's because you live in Long Island.  Okay, adjust the prices to .75 and $3 for you.

WHAT?  Cans are $1 here.
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2o6

Quote from: thecarnut on June 29, 2009, 03:29:17 PM
That seems pretty dumb. Are there any interior pics?

Actually, it's VERY clever. The iQ is only 1 foot longer than the Fortwo.

the Teuton

Quote from: 68_427 on June 29, 2009, 06:26:13 PM
WHAT?  Cans are $1 here.

That's retardedly expensive.  You can get 20 oz. bottles from the pop machine for $1-1.25 in most places.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

Cookie Monster

Quote from: the Teuton on June 29, 2009, 06:30:53 PM
That's retardedly expensive.  You can get 20 oz. bottles from the pop machine for $1-1.25 in most places.
Here they are $1.75.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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2 4 R

Cookie Monster

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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

the Teuton

2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

ifcar


68_427

Quote from: the Teuton on June 29, 2009, 06:30:53 PM
That's retardedly expensive.  You can get 20 oz. bottles from the pop machine for $1-1.25 in most places.

A few years ago bottles were $1.  Fak NY.
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Cookie Monster

Quote from: ifcar on June 29, 2009, 06:43:31 PM
An front wheel drive? Yes, that is pretty bad.
I said FWD, which means you would say "F", "W", "D", as in the letters. "F" is pronounced "ef", which starts with a vowel, and so I said "An". If I wanted to say front wheel drive I would have said "a front wheel drive". I'm not dumb.

Don't try to be a smartass.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 68_427 on June 29, 2009, 06:43:43 PM
A few years ago bottles were $1.  Fak NY.
They are $1.57 I think at supermarkets, plus another 9.25% for tax.

This is getting outrageous.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

ifcar

Quote from: thecarnut on June 29, 2009, 06:56:02 PM
I said FWD, which means you would say "F", "W", "D", as in the letters. "F" is pronounced "ef", which starts with a vowel, and so I said "An". If I wanted to say front wheel drive I would have said "a front wheel drive". I'm not dumb.

Don't try to be a smartass.

You pronounce it as an abbreviation? Okay.