Imprezza 2.5i vs WRX... for a daily driver

Started by r0tor, July 20, 2009, 11:28:26 AM

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: R-inge on October 08, 2009, 08:20:51 PM
I had assumed he was at least thinking of the hatch, which is semi-practical.

He "hates wagons".
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S204STi

Well in that case forget all this crap and get a 4x4 pickup.

SVT_Power

haven't read this thread through but why not just get the 2.5i and boost it? If you need, get some WRX/STi components...
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

CALL_911

Quote from: SVT_Power on October 08, 2009, 08:47:58 PM
haven't read this thread through but why not just get the 2.5i and boost it? If you need, get some WRX/STi components...

Probably easier said than done.


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MaxPower

I'm late to the thread but I'll add my 2 cents.  As an owner of an '09 Legacy 2.5i I'd say you've gotta go with the WRX.  Every time I merge onto the interstate I regret not springing for the LGT.  As far as the trunk goes, yeah, it'll take a few bags of cement.  But two large duffel bags pretty much fills it up.  

SVT_Power

Quote from: CALL_911 on October 08, 2009, 08:56:44 PM
Probably easier said than done.

well judging from the shear number of guys around me who have subies that are putting down more than 300hp, it can't be all that hard. And they all tell me the same thing - subie parts are ridiculously interchangable...
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

the Teuton

Quote from: SVT_Power on October 08, 2009, 09:19:18 PM
well judging from the shear number of guys around me who have subies that are putting down more than 300hp, it can't be all that hard. And they all tell me the same thing - subie parts are ridiculously interchangable...

Preach, brotha! Preach!
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Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
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TBR

Quote from: SVT_Power on October 08, 2009, 09:19:18 PM
well judging from the shear number of guys around me who have subies that are putting down more than 300hp, it can't be all that hard. And they all tell me the same thing - subie parts are ridiculously interchangable...

Why not just get a WRX then? Come on folks, use common sense. A turbocharged 2.5i has the exact same drawbacks as a WRX (fuel economy, premium required, and price) with a couple of extra ones thrown in (reliability, voiding the warranty, and driveability).

S204STi

Quote from: TBR on October 09, 2009, 09:24:56 AM
Why not just get a WRX then? Come on folks, use common sense. A turbocharged 2.5i has the exact same drawbacks as a WRX (fuel economy, premium required, and price) with a couple of extra ones thrown in (reliability, voiding the warranty, and driveability).


Yes, thank you.

sportyaccordy

Quote from: R-inge on October 08, 2009, 08:08:26 PM
Why are people telling him to get a high performance sports sedan for his winter beater/errands car? :confused:
He is already looking at an WRX... bigger exhaust, ECU chip and I think he'd be making STi power. It would just ride stiffer and have harder tires (obviously among other things)

I say he ditches the RX-8 and gets something like a V8 S4 or something. He'll get everything in one swoop and not be paying $700-800 to finance the new car and insure both...

S204STi

Quote from: sportyaccordy on October 09, 2009, 06:54:18 PM
He is already looking at an WRX... bigger exhaust, ECU chip and I think he'd be making STi power. It would just ride stiffer and have harder tires (obviously among other things)

I say he ditches the RX-8 and gets something like a V8 S4 or something. He'll get everything in one swoop and not be paying $700-800 to finance the new car and insure both...

Yeah, that's true.  I had the hatch in mind the whole time though.

The stock 09 is quicker than the STI already, no reason to ruin it. :lol:

r0tor

Quote from: R-inge on October 08, 2009, 08:20:51 PM
I had assumed he was at least thinking of the hatch, which is semi-practical.

I am...
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r0tor

for the record i stopped in at a subie dealer in midst of kitchen shopping and the only 5-door (un)impreza they had was an automatic outback sport... i had no ambition to drive it, but did check out the interior which was pretty decent looking and the available cargo area looked pretty good for my needs.
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: MaxPower on October 08, 2009, 08:57:54 PM
Every time I merge onto the interstate I regret not springing for the LGT.

Ha That's just an excuse to hold the pedal to the carpet for a while....
Underpowered cars are also a good reason to take corners faster- to maintain speed.  :devil:
Will

the Teuton

I survived for four years with a car that took 12.4 seconds to get to 60 mph on a good day, and I drove on the highway plenty of times. Power is addicting, but it isn't completely necessary.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

Tave

Quote from: the Teuton on October 10, 2009, 06:38:50 PM
I survived for four years with a car that took 12.4 seconds to get to 60 mph on a good day, and I drove on the highway plenty of times. Power is addicting, but it isn't completely necessary.

Did you spend $25,000 on it? :nutty:
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

the Teuton

Quote from: Tave on October 11, 2009, 09:00:53 AM
Did you spend $25,000 on it? :nutty:

If I'm spending $25k on a car, it damn well better hit 60 mph in under 7 seconds.

You're right, he should get the WRX.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

sportyaccordy

I don't get how he can keep the RX-8 when it will be slower than his DD. Dude should sell it and get an FD RX-7.

AutobahnSHO

For comparison, my minivan can supposedly do 8.3seconds 0-60mph.

Just sayin.
for no reason at all.
Will

the Teuton

Just saying that my Saturn has been clocked at hitting 60 mph between 7.9 seconds (Car and Driver) and 8.6 seconds (much more realistic, but probably a fair contender for beating a 2.5i).

I'd get a WRX if I were you.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

r0tor

#110
bleh
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Raza

I'd get a used Evo and a roof rack.

!

Even better; A4 R32.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

r0tor

bleh, an rx8 only has about 150 rwhp at 6,00 rpms... a 2.5i probably has about 140awhp at 6000 rpms

... both weigh about 3000 lbs...

...bleh, i think i can live with that for a runabout car....
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the Teuton

2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

Eye of the Tiger

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Raza

Quote from: r0tor on October 14, 2009, 08:29:44 AM
bleh, an rx8 only has about 150 rwhp at 6,00 rpms... a 2.5i probably has about 140awhp at 6000 rpms

... both weigh about 3000 lbs...

...bleh, i think i can live with that for a runabout car....

Your car has 37% drivetrain loss?
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

r0tor

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Raza

Quote from: r0tor on October 14, 2009, 09:39:44 AM
...no

Why quote 6000rpm for a 9000rpm motor?  Are you at this point not allowed to rev above 6000?
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

r0tor

because the other engine only revs to 6,000 rpms... so in theory its not too much different in acceleration the the 8 is i shift at 6,000...
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Raza

Quote from: r0tor on October 14, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
because the other engine only revs to 6,000 rpms... so in theory its not too much different in acceleration the the 8 is i shift at 6,000...

Whatever justification you want to use is fine.  It's like saying "well, I have a minivan now, but if I only use two seats, it's the same as getting a sports car, so there's really no difference."
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.