$20,000 Challenge

[Onslaught]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-Mazda-Rx7-Twinturbo-with-17k-original-miles_W0QQitemZ170370927136QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item27aae60a20&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245#ht_500wt_1182

Not this one because it's an auto. But you can find them nice for well under 20K

Why? Well, I'm a Mazda fan and I think this is the most beautiful car they've ever made and one of the best looking cars to ever come out of Japan. I love the fact that it's so purpose built and was the best it could be from the small car manufacture. Has it go flaws? Hell yes, but I don't give a crap. It's one of the only times I'll put blinders on and ignore a cars warts.

[the Teuton]

1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5RSTi - $18,000 obo

Tuned to 370 hp, weighing 2,900 lbs. at the very most.

It would be insane.



http://www.rs25.com/forums/f171/t111896-99-white-rs-04-05-sti-swap.html

[Eye of the Tiger]

which dyke is selling that one?

[the Teuton]

By my calculations, it has a pretty significantly better power to weight ratio than an E92 M3.  Come on, what's not to like about a street-legal Impreza that should be able to hit 60 mph in the high 3s?

[Eye of the Tiger]

By my calculations, it has a pretty significantly better power to weight ratio than an E92 M3.  Come on, what's not to like about a street-legal Impreza that should be able to hit 60 mph in the high 3s?

3's my ass

[the Teuton]

A stock 3,300 lbs. STI from where that engine came could hit 60 mph in 4.6 seconds.  A stock M3 can hit 60 in 4.1.

Let's look at weight to power ratios:

Stock STI:  291 hp, 3,300 lbs. -- 11.3 pounds/hp
Stock M3:  414 hp, 3,650 lbs. -- 8.82 pounds/hp
RSTI:  370 hp, 2,900 lbs. -- 7.84 pounds/hp

[hotrodalex]

A stock 3,300 lbs. STI from where that engine came could hit 60 mph in 4.6 seconds.  A stock M3 can hit 60 in 4.1.

Let's look at weight to power ratios:

Stock STI:  291 hp, 3,300 lbs. -- 11.3 pounds/hp
Stock M3:  414 hp, 3,650 lbs. -- 8.82 pounds/hp
RSTI:  370 hp, 2,900 lbs. -- 7.84 pounds/hp

Getting into the 3's is still a huge task.

[Eye of the Tiger]

A stock 3,300 lbs. STI from where that engine came could hit 60 mph in 4.6 seconds.  A stock M3 can hit 60 in 4.1.

Let's look at weight to power ratios:

Stock STI:  291 hp, 3,300 lbs. -- 11.3 pounds/hp
Stock M3:  414 hp, 3,650 lbs. -- 8.82 pounds/hp
RSTI:  370 hp, 2,900 lbs. -- 7.84 pounds/hp

V

Getting into the 3's is still a huge task.

Ya, the jump from high 4's to 3's is HUGE. It's like going from 20 seconds to 8 seconds.

[the Teuton]

Getting into the 3's is still a huge task.

With AWD, a fairly robust 6-speed, and fairly wide tires?

I'm not saying this one has any numbers with it, but some very mildly tuned RSTIs have hit low-11s in the 1/4 mile.

[Rupert]

911SC.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Porsche-911-SC-Super-Clean-wtih-upgrades_W0QQitemZ280384514940QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4148382b7c&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245#ht_15342wt_1167

Copycat.

[CALL_911]

Copycat.

Shit, I didn't see your post.


Great minds think alike?

[Raza]

So many good choices. 

Do we still get to keep the cars we have now?

[Xer0]

I'm sure you could bring an end of the MY Civic Si to about 20k.  If not than a slightly used Si or GTI.

[SVT666]

I thought GTOs weren't Canada-legal for bumper issues?

Canadian regulations were changed in 2007 and there is a whole list of cars that can now be imported with the GTO being one of them.

[omicron]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1962-LINCOLN-CONTINENTAL-SEDAN-ALL-ORIGINAL-RARE_W0QQitemZ220458081678QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3354535d8e&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

[Eye of the Tiger]

WAT

[omicron]

WAT

Curse your country and how full it is of brilliant cars for less than $20k.

429 Thunderbird for less then $9k!



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-FORD-THUNDERBIRD-COUPE-429-V8-4-BARREL-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ260461353033QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ca4b4d849&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

[Eye of the Tiger]

Curse your country and how full it is of brilliant cars for less than $20k.

429 Thunderbird for less then $9k!



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-FORD-THUNDERBIRD-COUPE-429-V8-4-BARREL-MUST-SEE_W0QQitemZ260461353033QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ca4b4d849&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

Curse your country and how full it is of brilliant Utes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[omicron]

Curse your country and how full it is of brilliant Utes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

You may have one if I may have this:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Pontiac-GRAND-VILLE-CONVERTIBLE-455-V8-Power-AC_W0QQitemZ270442454538QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ef7a05e0a&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

[Hachee]

Some great choices so far...
The Lotus, out of the box
The 911, gorgeous car, bit too many miles for my taste
The Lincoln, always loved that car
The '93 Mazda RX7 - I always thought that was one of the most beautiful cars ever.  

And since I've actually been considering getting a something old(ish), interesting as either a 3rd car or to replace my '04 325xi, just because I'm getting bored of it, I've been looking at cars online lately.  This car will mainly do only about 2,000 miles per year of local driving.  If I replace the 325, this is what I'm considering:

http://www.copleymotorcars.com/mercedes_benz5_55.5vo1658.html

And now I have to go look for Lotuses....

[Hachee]

I always loved that version of the T-bird - that, and (believe it or not), the 4 door version of the same era, just something cool about them.

And that Pontiac has to be the best looking of that series...wow, gorgeous car.

[omicron]

I always loved that version of the T-bird - that, and (believe it or not), the 4 door version of the same era, just something cool about them.

And that Pontiac has to be the best looking of that series...wow, gorgeous car.

The Pontiac is stunning, isn't it? All Grand Villes are wonderful, but the early chrome-bumper models are particularly striking. And for less than USD$20k! That barely gets me a Holden Cruze, for goodness sake.

[CALL_911]

Some great choices so far...
The Lotus, out of the box
The 911, gorgeous car, bit too many miles for my taste
The Lincoln, always loved that car
The '93 Mazda RX7 - I always thought that was one of the most beautiful cars ever.  

And since I've actually been considering getting a something old(ish), interesting as either a 3rd car or to replace my '04 325xi, just because I'm getting bored of it, I've been looking at cars online lately.  This car will mainly do only about 2,000 miles per year of local driving.  If I replace the 325, this is what I'm considering:

http://www.copleymotorcars.com/mercedes_benz5_55.5vo1658.html

And now I have to go look for Lotuses....

Holy crap, that thing's pristine!

[Eye of the Tiger]

You may have one if I may have this:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Pontiac-GRAND-VILLE-CONVERTIBLE-455-V8-Power-AC_W0QQitemZ270442454538QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ef7a05e0a&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

Sorry, but I think I need to keep the Grand Ville for myself. 

[omicron]

Sorry, but I think I need to keep the Grand Ville for myself. 

The Grand Ville wins the thread! None of that Lotus Spritzer, thank you.

[hotrodalex]

Well I think a Datsun 510 that's race prepped is going to be my choice.

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1248734771/1248734771ss.htm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/white-1972-datusn-510_W0QQitemZ330351671780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4cea7e79e4&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

But I really want this Morris Minor

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Morris-Minor-Woody-Beautiful-Traveller-Restoration_W0QQitemZ230367319110QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item35a2f65446&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

[Vinsanity]

So many good choices. 

Do we still get to keep the cars we have now?

well if that's the case, then I don't need 2 Cadillacs...



http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=263254107

[Cookie Monster]

Some great choices so far...
The Lotus, out of the box
The 911, gorgeous car, bit too many miles for my taste
The Lincoln, always loved that car
The '93 Mazda RX7 - I always thought that was one of the most beautiful cars ever. 

And since I've actually been considering getting a something old(ish), interesting as either a 3rd car or to replace my '04 325xi, just because I'm getting bored of it, I've been looking at cars online lately.  This car will mainly do only about 2,000 miles per year of local driving.  If I replace the 325, this is what I'm considering:

http://www.copleymotorcars.com/mercedes_benz5_55.5vo1658.html

And now I have to go look for Lotuses....

Wow, that has barely any miles on it (just like the Lotus)!

You should get a Lotus anyways.

[Payman]

I'm seeing several of these '71~'73 Riviera Boat tails going for $6000~$12,000.

[Raza]

well if that's the case, then I don't need 2 Cadillacs...



http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=263254107

Damn, they do look nice.