12 cylinders on a reasonable budget

Started by sportyaccordy, September 11, 2009, 06:20:38 AM

sportyaccordy

There are actually quite a few options :rastaman:


W220 S600!

SL600 with the 390HP motor

850Ci.

88 XJS, 33K miles. Prob barely runs

Would u take the risk??? 1 tune up would prob cost a quarter of the car's value :lol:

ChrisV

Also the earlier XJ12 and of course, the 750iL in E32 and E38 form, both of which can be had rather cheap.
Like a fine Detroit wine, this vehicle has aged to budgetary perfection...

S204STi

750iL or 850Ci would be my personal preferences.

SVT666

I would never spend the money on an old 12 cylinder car.

Raza

850Ci, definitely (with a stick). 

Anything else, eh.
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Quote from: HEMI666 on September 11, 2009, 11:54:46 AM
I would never spend the money on an old 12 cylinder car.

yeah, who'd want to own or drive one of these:









The 750s added so many cool little touches that were not available on the 740s, as well as having a bunch of options available that were just neat, like that built in cooler. But the dash was not soft touch plastic, but actual leather.

I alsao liked driving the earlier E32 750. Powerful cars that are way down in price these days...





Would definitely take on of those.

And I still love the XJ12C from the '70s...



Like a fine Detroit wine, this vehicle has aged to budgetary perfection...

SVT666

Quote from: ChrisV on September 11, 2009, 12:28:57 PM
yeah, who'd want to own or drive one of these:
Sure I would, but I doubt that thing is affordable for someone on a tight budget which is what this thread is about.

GoCougs

I understand the allure of the badge, but objectively speaking I'd think twice about it - your average V6 CamCord of today would be as good or better an all around performer, would be far cheaper to repair and maintain, and be infinitely more reliable.

Byteme

Quote from: sportyaccordy on September 11, 2009, 06:20:38 AM
There are actually quite a few options :rastaman:




88 XJS, 33K miles. Prob barely runs


I don't know. If the mileage is correct the car has probably been pretty well pampered.  From what you can tell from the pictures it doesn't look like it's been thrashed.  Make sure all the fuel hoses are new and the clamps are OK (fuel leaks and resulting engine fires are not uncommon) and you are probably good to go. V12 jaguars were thirsty though, even the HE models used a lot of gas by today's standards.

Byteme

Quote from: GoCougs on September 11, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
I understand the allure of the badge, but objectively speaking I'd think twice about it - your average V6 CamCord of today would be as good or better an all around performer, would be far cheaper to repair and maintain, and be infinitely more reliable.

Probably correct but if one is considering a car like those shown here they are undoubtably looking for more of a driving experience than a Camry could ever hope to provide.

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Quote from: Byteme on September 11, 2009, 01:03:31 PM
I don't know. If the mileage is correct the car has probably been pretty well pampered.  From what you can tell from the pictures it doesn't look like it's been thrashed.  Make sure all the fuel hoses are new and the clamps are OK (fuel leaks and resulting engine fires are not uncommon) and you are probably good to go. V12 jaguars were thirsty though, even the HE models used a lot of gas by today's standards.

Oh yes, when shopping for a V12 car, fuel economy is always one of my top priorities.  :lol:
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Vinsanity

As tempting as it is, I'd probably end up wussing out and getting my 12-cylinder fix from a Mustang GT + Toyota Corolla :mask:

Or Nissan 350Z + Cadillac CTS. The possibilities are endless...

Raza

Quote from: GoCougs on September 11, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
I understand the allure of the badge, but objectively speaking I'd think twice about it - your average V6 CamCord of today would be as good or better an all around performer, would be far cheaper to repair and maintain, and be infinitely more reliable.

Not all purchases can be rationalized coldly on a spreadsheet.
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Quote from: NACar on September 11, 2009, 01:06:46 PM
Oh yes, when shopping for a V12 car, fuel economy is always one of my top priorities.  :lol:

11 city 16 hwy. You gotta pay to play.    ;)

Byteme

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=19878.msg1157244#msg1157244 date=1252696754
Not all purchases can be rationalized coldly on a spreadsheet.

Especially automobiles

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Quote from: Byteme on September 11, 2009, 01:19:32 PM
11 city 16 hwy. You gotta pay to play.    ;)

Numbers are irrelevant, unless you are counting cylinders.
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Quote from: Raza  link=topic=19878.msg1157244#msg1157244 date=1252696754
Not all purchases can be rationalized coldly on a spreadsheet.

Can't say I haven't tried :mask:

According to a MS Excel spreadsheet I pasted Edmunds true-cost-of-ownership data into, I should've bought a Maxima.

Submariner

Quote from: ChrisV on September 11, 2009, 12:28:57 PM
yeah, who'd want to own or drive one of these:









The 750s added so many cool little touches that were not available on the 740s, as well as having a bunch of options available that were just neat, like that built in cooler. But the dash was not soft touch plastic, but actual leather.

I alsao liked driving the earlier E32 750. Powerful cars that are way down in price these days...





Would definitely take on of those.

And I still love the XJ12C from the '70s...





Yeah...because those 750's were common...
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ChrisV

Quote from: HEMI666 on September 11, 2009, 12:40:58 PM
Sure I would, but I doubt that thing is affordable for someone on a tight budget which is what this thread is about.

he said "reasonable budget" not "tight budget." he even listed and 850i and a Mercedes S600 both around $14-15k. The ones I listed can be had less than that, easily.



E32 750iL, $3950. Less miles than my car...

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=264291230&dealer_id=64300157&car_year=1992&rdm=1252699810753&model=750IL&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1988&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=BMW&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=21208&advanced=&end_year=1994&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=2421&standard=false&rdpage=thumb

Some newer ones, all under $10k:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?num_records=25&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&search_type=both&distance=0&address=21208&marketZipError=false&style_flag=1&make=BMW&model=750IL&make2=&start_year=1988&end_year=2001&min_price=0&max_price=10000&seller_type=b&transmission=&engine=&drive=&doors=&fuel=&max_mileage=&color=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&keywords_display=&sort_type=priceDESC&body_code=0&certified=&advanced=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&showZipError=n&default_sort=priceDESC&awsp=false&systime=&rdm=1252700123545



Quote from: Submariner on September 11, 2009, 01:33:39 PM
Yeah...because those 750's were common...

I just listed 42 of them under $10k. They are all over. Many of my fellow 7 series club owners are 750 owners.

I'd take any of those as a daily driver.
Like a fine Detroit wine, this vehicle has aged to budgetary perfection...

GoCougs

Quote from: Byteme on September 11, 2009, 01:05:42 PM
Probably correct but if one is considering a car like those shown here they are undoubtably looking for more of a driving experience than a Camry could ever hope to provide.

Perhaps the 850CSi w/MT, but the others? They're AT-equipped sedans that on their best days probably couldn't run with a newer V6 Accord or V6 Camry of the same value.

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=19878.msg1157244#msg1157244 date=1252696754
Not all purchases can be rationalized coldly on a spreadsheet.

When your purchase can't keep pace with a CamCord, will cost a mint to fix and maintain and be a reliability nightmare, yes, I think such a thing can be.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: GoCougs on September 11, 2009, 02:56:52 PM
Perhaps the 850CSi w/MT, but the others? They're AT-equipped sedans that on their best days probably couldn't run with a newer V6 Accord or V6 Camry of the same value.

When your purchase can't keep pace with a CamCord, and will cost a mint to fix and maintain and be a reliability nightmare, yes, I think such a thing can be.

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Quote from: GoCougs on September 11, 2009, 02:56:52 PM
Perhaps the 850CSi w/MT, but the others? They're AT-equipped sedans that on their best days probably couldn't run with a newer V6 Accord or V6 Camry of the same value.

When your purchase can't keep pace with a CamCord, will cost a mint to fix and maintain and be a reliability nightmare, yes, I think such a thing can be.

I guess I'll have to sell the MG and buy a Camry, then...
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Quote from: Psilos on September 11, 2009, 03:03:16 PM
I guess I'll have to sell the MG and buy a Camry, then...

Oooo... I'll give you $1000 for it! And a Swift!  :wub:
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Quote from: NACar on September 11, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
Oooo... I'll give you $1000 for it! And a Swift!  :wub:

For you, $3000. :lol:


When I do sell it, I'm gonna start way high (like, $4000), and bring it down until I get some hits. I expect $3200 or so.
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Quote from: Psilos on September 11, 2009, 03:06:51 PM
For you, $3000. :lol:


When I do sell it, I'm gonna start way high (like, $4000), and bring it down until I get some hits. I expect $3200 or so.

Wow thanks  :rolleyes:

Do us all a favoure and put a V8 in it.
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Quote from: NACar on September 11, 2009, 03:08:15 PM
Wow thanks  :rolleyes:

Do us all a favoure and put a V8 in it.

Hey, man, I've put close to $2000 since I got it for $2000, and I wanna buy a Miata, and I ain't rich, and you'd just get bored and sell it in a month anyway. ;) :lol:

V8 is too much time/effort.
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Onslaught

On a budget? I'd buy two v6 modern day cars.

But what you're talking about? BMW 8