Compacts of the 90's.

[Cookie Monster]

Does this include the Impreza 2.5RS?

If it does, that's my pick.

No.

That came out in 1998.

[BimmerM3]

'96 Civic followed by the Golf.

[CALL_911]

No.

That came out in 1998.

Still in the 90s, right?

[the Teuton]

The RS only started at $18something in 1998. It was a solid bargain.

[Cookie Monster]

Still in the 90s, right?

So? Look at 2o6's post. We're supposed to be in 1995 or 1996.

[Pommes-T]

VW Golf.  Nothing else come close.


Cheers,
Madman of the People

+1

[Raza]

95 Civic, no contest.  The MkIII was the worst generation of A series cars.  Stodgy, plain, and questionable reliability.  Make mine an EX sedan, 5MT.

[S204STi]

Yeah, a 2WD car with good snow tires is a better winter vehicle than an AWD car with all-seasons.  I've driven both combinations extensively.  AWD helps you accelerate.  It does very little for braking and turning in winter driving.  Tires are where it's at.  All-seasons is a misnomer, IMO.  They are 3-season tires, and a compromise at that.  But doable, I've had all-seasons on a RWD pickup (well, it was 4WD at one point), and several FWD cars, including the Mazda.

[Raza]

I WANT MORE ATTENTION!!!!  GUESS WHAT CAR I VOTED FOR! 

[Raza]

Because it'll be faster. Meanwhile, AWD gets you traction you don't really need, more weight, less power, and worse gas mileage.

For a year round car, I'll take the agility of FWD over the stodginess of AWD every time. 

[S204STi]

Oh, and TBR... the hp/lbs ratio is like a 2lbs difference between the 2.5RS and the Neon.  I'd rather have the one that isn't a shitbox, personally.

http://www.insideline.com/subaru/impreza/2000/full-test-2000-subaru-impreza-25-rs.html

[the Teuton]

Oh, and TBR... the hp/lbs ratio is like a 2lbs difference between the 2.5RS and the Neon.  I'd rather have the one that isn't a shitbox, personally.

http://www.insideline.com/subaru/impreza/2000/full-test-2000-subaru-impreza-25-rs.html

Plus one.

I'm a fan of gay manlove. I participate in it often.

[r0tor]

where the crap is the Probe GT?!?!?

[Vinsanity]

where the crap is the Probe GT?!?!?

I'm thinking the GT probably cost a good deal more than these old econoboxes when they were all new, but I'd even take a 4-banger Probe/MX-6 over any of them.

[TBR]

Oh, and TBR... the hp/lbs ratio is like a 2lbs difference between the 2.5RS and the Neon.  I'd rather have the one that isn't a shitbox, personally.

http://www.insideline.com/subaru/impreza/2000/full-test-2000-subaru-impreza-25-rs.html

The Neon was neither a shitbox nor was it even close to being as expensive as the 2.5RS.

[S204STi]

The Neon was neither a shitbox nor was it even close to being as expensive as the 2.5RS.

Yes it was, IMO, and the latter doesn't matter since the RS was cheaper than the GT-S and Integra which it was aimed at.  It's like the difference between AAA and the Majors.

[TBR]

Yes it was, IMO, and the latter doesn't matter since the RS was cheaper than the GT-S and Integra which it was aimed at.  It's like the difference between AAA and the Majors.

If the Impreza RS was aimed at a class above the Neon, why are you comparing it to the Neon?

And, the Neon was not a shitbox. It was in an entirely different league from the Cavalier and was one of the most competitive compact sedans Detroit has ever offered. The only two compact American sedans I would say measured up as well to the competition as the Neon did was the original Saturn S-Series and the Focus.

The Neon was a seriously good car.

[the Teuton]

I like to think that the original Neon was a great idea executed poorly. It was a great little package, but the details and fitment quality sucked balls.

We had a 1996 coupe, and that thing was in the dealer for problems constantly, especially with the door jambs since they didn't line up right, and the dome light would come on in turns.

The Impreza was a much more...durable...car overall.

[TBR]

I like to think that the original Neon was a great idea executed poorly. It was a great little package, but the details and fitment quality sucked balls.

We had a 1996 coupe, and that thing was in the dealer for problems constantly, especially with the door jambs since they didn't line up right, and the dome light would come on in turns.

The Impreza was a much more...durable...car overall.

There were build issues, with some cars. The one I had was put together very well.

The big stuff does tend to be pretty solid, except for the head gasket (what would have been if Chrysler had spend $10/car to do it right), but, yeah, some cars did have small, niggling quality problems.

[2o6]

where the crap is the Probe GT?!?!?

It doesn't really count. Those are sporty coupes rather than small econoboxes.

I like to think that the original Neon was a great idea executed poorly. It was a great little package, but the details and fitment quality sucked balls.

We had a 1996 coupe, and that thing was in the dealer for problems constantly, especially with the door jambs since they didn't line up right, and the dome light would come on in turns.

The Impreza was a much more...durable...car overall.

Granted, the Neon did have some issues, you can use that anecdotal evidence for ANY car.

Yes it was, IMO, and the latter doesn't matter since the RS was cheaper than the GT-S and Integra which it was aimed at.  It's like the difference between AAA and the Majors.

From a performance perspective, I would own a Neon ACR over an Impreza RS. Besides, the RS is too new and expensive, so it doesn't count.

+1

But it sucks.

Still in the 90s, right?

Too new. If that were the case, I would have put the Focus on this list. (Available in 99' as a 2000 model.)

[S204STi]

What do you mean it's too new?  Can you read?  It falls within the MY range of this poll.

If the Impreza RS was aimed at a class above the Neon, why are you comparing it to the Neon?

And, the Neon was not a shitbox. It was in an entirely different league from the Cavalier and was one of the most competitive compact sedans Detroit has ever offered. The only two compact American sedans I would say measured up as well to the competition as the Neon did was the original Saturn S-Series and the Focus.

The Neon was a seriously good car.

I'm not the comparing it to a Neon... for some reason you were though...

Anyway, other than the Cavalier it's the cheapest car I've ever driven.  Saying it compared favorably to that car isn't saying much...

[Vinsanity]

Truth be told, if I had the money to buy a new econobox in 1996, I would just use that money to buy a later model of one of these:



Actually, I'd really want a coupe, but they only made them through 1984

[Raza]

Plus one.

You're a little fucking crybaby.  "Oh, jump to conclusions huh?  I know I'm the guy who said that the 2.5RS was the best handling car ever, but you shouldn't assume.  Keep asking me what I voted for, please!  I won't tell you!  But keep asking!"


And then you cry about it when someone calls you out about being the silly predictable bitch you are. 

[Cookie Monster]

What do you mean it's too new?  Can you read?  It falls within the MY range of this poll.

I'm not the comparing it to a Neon... for some reason you were though...

Anyway, other than the Cavalier it's the cheapest car I've ever driven.  Saying it compared favorably to that car isn't saying much...

Can YOU read? He specifically said that this poll was if we were back in 1995-1996. The RS didn't even come out till 1998.

If we're counting the RS, then I'm going to go with the '99 Civic Si. Better looking, lighter and it has 160 hp.

[the Teuton]

I enjoy sloppy wet kisses, too!

I have no sense of humor, either.

[S204STi]

Can YOU read? He specifically said that this poll was if we were back in 1995-1996. The RS didn't even come out till 1998.

If we're counting the RS, then I'm going to go with the '99 Civic Si. Better looking, lighter and it has 160 hp.

Hey dude, he's the one who also put "93-2001 Impreza" in the polling options, so fucking relax.

[Rupert]

Civic.

But, really, if it was 1996 and I had enough money for a new compact, I would be getting a used sports car.

[Rupert]

Show me a Civic with 137 hp...or 142, for that matter, besides the Si.

And show me a rally-slaying Civic, too.

Oh yeah, how do you know what I voted for? I have not told anyone here. I say you're an asshole who likes to prejudge people.

Prejudging? You idiot, everyone knows what you voted for.

I'm not telling, either.

[the Teuton]

Prejudging? You idiot, everyone knows what you voted for.

I'm not telling, either.

Your sarcasm detector and Raza's are both broken. Were they made by the same manufacturers? Was there a recall issued on them?

[sportyaccordy]

Pre-RS Imprezers were gay (literally)

Civics are rattle traps.

EVERYTHING else on the list is painfully boring/slow/unrefined.

VW please.