GT5 versus Forza 3

[Eye of the Tiger]

Just for shits and giggles,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I58jmG5NnDc

I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be so easy to do in Gran Turismo.

[r0tor]

^ jeebus that person must have ALOT of spare time on their hands....

[Laconian]

More examples of Forza 3's unrealism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86wKWjvUD50

Such terrible, terrible physics

[Onslaught]

More examples of Forza 3's unrealism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86wKWjvUD50

Such terrible, terrible physics

So it's got the Miata in it I see.

[Eye of the Tiger]

[Rupert]

Exactly. I tried it, and no. The problem with the keyboard isn't the steering, though it is a bit awkward, it's the on/off throttle and brake. Therefore, traction control and ABS are needed.

Live For Speed is good enough that you can actually tune the car to be less tail-happy during full-throttle exits (which is all of them if you're using a keyboard). You can put an open differential in the car, as well as tune the suspension stiffness, tire pressure, roll bar strength, etc. There is also an option for ABS. I don't think I'll be competitive with real people this way, but at least it's fun now.

[MrH]

Question:  GT5 is supposed to have tuning like the old gran turismos right?  Prologue doesn't have any tuning.

I loved setting up cars to handle properly.  I used to have an RX-7 that was awesome.  Took forever to get right, but I could lay into the throttle right at the apex, rotate a little, then just take off.  I murdered some much more powerful cars in that thing.

[68_427]

GT5P has a quick tune with suspension, camber, toe in/out etc...

[MrH]

GT5P has a quick tune with suspension, camber, toe in/out etc...

It does?

How'd I miss this?

[68_427]

You have to finish all A class races to "unlock" it.  Also Kaz has said you can "modify almost every part of a car imaginable".  If I can find the exact quote I'll post it.

[Rich]

Just started playing the GT5 demo.  Maaan the graphics are insane.  

The gameplay itself doesn't seem to be groundbreaking though.  A lot harder than GT4, but I don't know if it's more realistic

Really pounded my ego into the ground.  The most I can muster with the normal car is about 2:00 or about 12 seconds off the fastest guy, and ranked about 9,000.

With the tuned car, I felt like I was getting more out of the car, and got closer to the fastest time (1:45, or about 9 sec off the pace of the fastes).  But, I'm ranked about 13,000 for it.

Anyone else playing it?

[sportyaccordy]

Forza 3 has much better sound, but I have to give the nod to GT5 for the graphics.

Personally, graphics wise I think they are close enough. GT has been notorious for having terrible sound since GT3 (GT2 had better sound than the two games that followed). Forza really captured the motor's sound. Plus I think Forza keeps track of tire marks and (in GT4 vs Forza 1) dealt with smoke + dirt clouds better (I don't think there was any in GT4). I personally like GT4's physics the best, but I will have to really dig into Forza 2/3 to make an assessment.

Yesterday I was in Gamestop, and was about 2 seconds away from putting down the $200 on an Xbox + FM3. But I think I will hold off until I'm done applying to grad schools.

[r0tor]

Just started playing the GT5 demo.  Maaan the graphics are insane. 

prologue or is there a demo out there to download?

[Raza]

prologue or is there a demo out there to download?

Free demo download via PSN.

[68_427]

Just started playing the GT5 demo.  Maaan the graphics are insane. 

The gameplay itself doesn't seem to be groundbreaking though.  A lot harder than GT4, but I don't know if it's more realistic

Really pounded my ego into the ground.  The most I can muster with the normal car is about 2:00 or about 12 seconds off the fastest guy, and ranked about 9,000.

With the tuned car, I felt like I was getting more out of the car, and got closer to the fastest time (1:45, or about 9 sec off the pace of the fastes).  But, I'm ranked about 13,000 for it.

Anyone else playing it?

I've been playing it.  Really pissed that traction control is on the normal car since I'm using the controller.  I've got a 1:51.4 with the standard car and a 1:38.2 with the tuned car.  I wish my pedals weren't broken.

[r0tor]

Free demo download via PSN.

shit i gotta get on that!

[Rich]

I've been playing it.  Really pissed that traction control is on the normal car since I'm using the controller.  I've got a 1:51.4 with the standard car and a 1:38.2 with the tuned car.  I wish my pedals weren't broken.

I'm using the regular controller without traction control  

It's mo' fun

Edit:  Just realized it was on and can't turn it off.  Even though it works like crap though.  I thought I had it off when I first played

[565]

We need a GT5 demo challenge thread, like the old GT4 thread.

I just started,  I'm all over the place.  1:59 so far. A long way to go.

[565]

How do you turn off traction control on the stock car???

[Rich]

You can't....

[Rich]

I started using MT and got it down to 1:58, and now I moved the view to outside the car and I'm at 1:56

[Rich]

I stopped using the shift indicator for advice and am letting the car roll through most turns in 3rd rather than the recommended 2nd and I'm having a lot more fun, and am faster

[Rich]

My screen name on PSN is the same as here....(in case somebody doesn't believe the times, not that they are worth making up or anything )

[68_427]

You only want 2nd for the hairpins.  Also don't start slowing down on the strait when the light starts flashing, wait a couple seconds.

[Rich]

I use second for 4, sometimes 6, 7, 9, and 10.

The shift indicator suggests I use 2nd for 1, 2, 8, and 11, but f that

[r0tor]

i got a 1:53 and a 1:41 after a few laps.  the breakaway characteristics  makes me feel like im go-karting

[68_427]

I only use second for 9 & 10 with the tuned 370z.

[565]

Damn how are you people so fast using just the controller?  Time to dust off the old steering wheel from GT4.

[Rich]

I only use second for 9 & 10 with the tuned 370z.

Yeah, I should wrote in my post I was referring to the normal one.  Still don't know how you're that fast with the controller!

[Rich]

I'm down to 1:41 and ranked 3,000something with the tuned car now