If you could only have one car...

[J86]

I'd sell my left arm for a Porsche Turbo.

How do you plan on shifting then?

[Tave]

How do you plan on shifting then?

With mah knees. How do you steer, with your hands?

[sportyaccordy]

How do you plan on shifting then?

The 996s and up came in automatic

[the Teuton]

The 996s and up came in automatic

Uh, no. 964s came with Tiptronics, too. So did the 993s.

[CALL_911]

Uh, no. 964s came with Tiptronics, too. So did the 993s.

The 964/993 Turbo did not come with an automatic.

[the Teuton]

The 964/993 Turbo did not come with an automatic.

http://www.porsche964.co.uk/history/964bio.htm

Check out 1989. A Tiptronic sure as hell ain't a manual.

[CALL_911]

http://www.porsche964.co.uk/history/964bio.htm

Check out 1989. A Tiptronic sure as hell ain't a manual.

I repeat, the TURBO did not come with an automatic.

[the Teuton]

I repeat, the TURBO did not come with an automatic.

My bad. Yeah, you're right on that one.

[CALL_911]

My bad. Yeah, you're right on that one.

[3.0L V6]

Audi S4. Practical enough that you could use it for mundane crap, such as commuting, carrying a few people or some stuff, all-wheel drive that will make winter driving less 'fun' that pure high power rear drive cars, and something you could potentially park downtown without having to be paranoid about somebody trying to steal it.

On the fun side, you have a 330hp car that handles like a champ with a 6-speed manual transmission. Sure, it may cost $50k, but you're driving it for the rest of your life, so might as well spend the money.

[omicron]

Pip pip!

[MrH]

Audi S4. Practical enough that you could use it for mundane crap, such as commuting, carrying a few people or some stuff, all-wheel drive that will make winter driving less 'fun' that pure high power rear drive cars, and something you could potentially park downtown without having to be paranoid about somebody trying to steal it.

On the fun side, you have a 330hp car that handles like a champ with a 6-speed manual transmission. Sure, it may cost $50k, but you're driving it for the rest of your life, so might as well spend the money.

How fitting, with your name being 3.0L V6 and all

[saxonyron]

2010 Audi S6.  5.2L V10 making 435 HP should satisfy my need for speed, plus the combination of handling and room is just about perfect.  BUt could anyone here really be satisfied with just one car for the rest of their life?  Not a chance!

[sportyaccordy]

Audi S4. Practical enough that you could use it for mundane crap, such as commuting, carrying a few people or some stuff, all-wheel drive that will make winter driving less 'fun' that pure high power rear drive cars, and something you could potentially park downtown without having to be paranoid about somebody trying to steal it.

On the fun side, you have a 330hp car that handles like a champ with a 6-speed manual transmission. Sure, it may cost $50k, but you're driving it for the rest of your life, so might as well spend the money.

I am really thinking about the B5 S4 tiptronic....

Timebomb, but otherwise fits my needs right now.

I don't know why I like Audis all of a sudden. I like A4s way more than 3-series.

[saxonyron]

I am really thinking about the B5 S4 tiptronic....

Timebomb, but otherwise fits my needs right now.

I don't know why I like Audis all of a sudden. I like A4s way more than 3-series.

Well, that's easy.  Audi's are superior in every way.   Either that or you subconsciously grew tired of the BMW styling idiom and are looking for something different, preferably with a really big nose. 

[CALL_911]

Well, that's easy.  Audi's are superior in every way.   Either that or you subconsciously grew tired of the BMW styling idiom and are looking for something different, preferably with a really big nose. 

Pfft, BMW>Audi.

At least in RWD vs. AWD offerings. AWD vs. AWD, I'd go Audi.

[the Teuton]

Pfft, BMW>Audi.

At least in RWD vs. AWD offerings. AWD vs. AWD, I'd go Audi.

For the most part, yes. It would be nice if BMW grew a pair and made the sport suspension standard.

[MrH]

For the most part, yes. It would be nice if BMW grew a pair and made the sport suspension standard.

Why should they make it standard if most people don't want it....?

[2o6]

Now I feel stupid for choosing a Fit.

[Vinsanity]

Now I feel stupid for choosing a Fit.

LOL.

It's not set in stone. What car do you have in mind now?

[the Teuton]

Why should they make it standard if most people don't want it....?

BMWs are supposed to be sports sedans, are they not?

They're marketed as premium sports sedans, no? Suburban housewives can go fuck themselves if they don't like it.

[MrH]

BMWs are supposed to be sports sedans, are they not?

They're marketed as premium sports sedans, no? Suburban housewives can go fuck themselves if they don't like it.

Or you could just have it as an option, and choose it if you want...

You're an idiot.

[the Teuton]

Or you could just have it as an option, and choose it if you want...

You're an idiot.

I try to be.

It takes practice.

[MaxPower]

I am really thinking about the B5 S4 tiptronic....

Timebomb, but otherwise fits my needs right now.

I don't know why I like Audis all of a sudden. I like A4s way more than 3-series.

What's the timebomb aspect to B5 S4s?

[TBR]

What's the timebomb aspect to B5 S4s?

German + two turbos + Audi suspension = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[MaxPower]

German + two turbos + Audi suspension = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

but nothing more specific than that?

[Tave]

The turbos in that S4 go kaput at about 60-70K and need to be replaced.

[saxonyron]

The turbos in that S4 go kaput at about 60-70K and need to be replaced.

Eh, my 2000 A6 2.7T is basically the same twin turbo engine on the B5 S4.  I sold it to an employee back in 2006 who still works for me.  The car had 120k miles, now has over 150k miles.  Original turbos, no failures. In fact no problems of significance with the whole engine.  The front end does beat you up with ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. etc.  BUt that's $3-400 a couple times a year.  No big deal in the big scheme of things.  Of course if you get one that was abused by the previous owner, you can have issues.  I took real good care of the car, never stressed the turbos without proper warm up , cool down, kept the oil fresh, etc. If you can find a decent used one where you actually know the history of the car, you might be on solid footing.  Besides, the thrill of having an S4 would far outweigh the minor inconvenience of a $4,000 twin turbo swap!  

[Tave]

I'm just telling you what Audi and Audi technicians have told my friends who owned B5 S4s, after their turbos failed @ 60-70K. Also, if you search for the problem online, you'll come up with a lot of hits.


When the turbos go the engine doesn't asplode or anything, it just loses power.

[nickdrinkwater]

If I was going down the 4dr super saloon route: