2011 Mustang GT 5.0

[sportyaccordy]

Neither. E46 M3.

Honestly.... I don't know.....

Hey guys.... doesn't this Rustang have a better power to weight ratio than the current M3? Can you imagine getting walked in your 70K M3 by a 30K Mustang??? This thing is like this year's "GT-R", but WAY more exciting

[Catman]

This is one of those cars that you keep in your garage forever and take it out on weekends.

[SVT666]

Fuck that Catman.  You drive it every day.

[Rich]

Looks like HotRodPilot has got himself one helluva car.  Am jealous.  

Pretty good deal too.  4k off MSRP.

I brought in the 35K quote to a Ford dealer in Boise to let them see if they could match it.  They just scratched their heads

Looks like the steering has been lightened up at low speeds... I liked how heavy the 2010 was on the test drive.  Lots of other improvements will offset this though...

[Catman]

Fuck that Catman.  You drive it every day.

I wouldn't do that if I had it as a third car. Keep it nice and new!

[Vinsanity]

Fuck that Catman.  You drive it every day.

+1.

besides, I'd opt for something more collectible (less common) if I wanted a garage queen

[Catman]

Think I read 60-0 in 105 ft?  That's excellent.

[S204STi]

Speaking of Audi, the 5.0 makes the 354-hp S5 look like an overpriced slowpoke. We've driven both cars in anger and the 2011 Mustang GT is not only faster, but is actually rear-wheel drive, not a FWD platform fitted with Quattro all-wheel drive. Want us to go even further? We'd prefer the Mustang GT to a BMW 650i. Sure, the BMW has dash leather and... iDrive. But (again), the GT makes more power (the 650i manages 360 hp), handles better and is quieter unless you're really belting the throttle. Also, Sync's a whole lot better than iDrive, even the much improved new iDrive. Not only that, but the GT's new 5.0-liter V8 engine is in another league than (previous) competitors like the Nissan 370Z and Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8. Getting the point? In 2011, the Mustang GT is the car to beat. Welcome back, 5.0.

Uh, the S5 isn't a FWD platform fitted with AWD though.  That would be the A3 and TT.

The Sync system is pretty cool though for sure.

[CALL_911]

Uh, the S5 isn't a FWD platform fitted with AWD though.  That would be the A3 and TT.

The Sync system is pretty cool though for sure.

The B platform is too. FWD just isn't as common on it. They still do sell a FWD B8 A4.

[r0tor]

The audi B platform is designed to be AWD from the start or else you could never get a driveshaft and mount axels and a differential in the rear of the car.  In addition, nobody engineers a FWD platform for a longitudinally mounted engine.

FWD is mearly a lowcost option that can be derrived from it just like an subaru can be easily converted to FWD.

[ChrisV]

Uh, the S5 isn't a FWD platform fitted with AWD though.  That would be the A3 and TT.

The S5 is based on FWD architecture, which is why the engine is fully ahead of the front wheels, giving absolutely crap weight balance (even though the V8 is actually relatively light for a DOHC V8)

[SVT666]

Who cares about Audi, this thing hits 60 in 4.3 seconds.

[SVT666]

This far exceeds any expectations I ever had for it.

If I spent 50 large on a GT500 last year I would be super pissed.

[r0tor]

The S5 is based on FWD architecture, which is why the engine is fully ahead of the front wheels, giving absolutely crap weight balance (even though the V8 is actually relatively light for a DOHC V8)

If it was FWD architecture, the engine would be sideways...

[Cobra93]

If it was FWD architecture, the engine would be sideways...

[S204STi]

The S5 is based on FWD architecture, which is why the engine is fully ahead of the front wheels, giving absolutely crap weight balance (even though the V8 is actually relatively light for a DOHC V8)

See r0tor's posts...

[r0tor]

ya rly

[Catman]

Release the Kraken!

[Cobra93]

You haven't seen a FWD car with a longitudinal mounted engine? (Intrepid, 300M, Concord)

[S204STi]

Sorry for picking that nit, didn't think it would be such a big deal.

[r0tor]

Ok then... I guess Subaru builds FWD platowrms too since few people want to admit something could be built as an AWD platform

[r0tor]

You haven't seen a FWD car with a longitudinal mounted engine? (Intrepid, 300M, Concord)

Have I seen one worth a damn... no

[Cobra93]

Have I seen one worth a damn... no

It's okay to admit you were wrong. 

[Raza]

You haven't seen a FWD car with a longitudinal mounted engine? (Intrepid, 300M, Concord)

And the Passat....but that was a B platform car.

[r0tor]

It's okay to admit you were wrong. 

No chrysler was wrong about it.... hence it will be dead soon

[SVT666]

Where is Cougs? I guess he's a little shy these days.

[Cobra93]

No chrysler was wrong about it.... hence it will be dead soon

So were Acura, Audi, Cadillac, Citroen, Saab, Subaru and VW. Some of them seem to be doing alright.  

But I understand.  I, too, hate admitting when I'm wrong. 

[MX793]

Ok then... I guess Subaru builds FWD platowrms too since few people want to admit something could be built as an AWD platform

Prior to Subie converting the whole line to AWD only in the 90s, they made both FWD and AWD versions of some of their models.  Both had longitudinal mounted engines, as they do now.  They then simply dropped the FWD option and only produced AWD.

Excluding the Golf-based cars, Audis are FWD based AWD cars with longitudinally mounted engines.

[ChrisV]

If it was FWD architecture, the engine would be sideways...

Um, no. There have been a lot of FWD only cars over the decades that have had longitudinal engines. Audi before and after quattro, Renault, the Acura Vigor, Cords, Citroens, the Toronado/Eldorado, I can go on.

[r0tor]

Ok great, I see the error in my ways.  Audi builds a FWD platform that the A4, A5, A6, A8, Q5, and Bentley all use, 3/4 of which are not FWD.

Of course they make something designed for FWD and not AWD.  What the hell am I thinking.  Nobody in the world would be stupid enough to design a platform for AWD since you can only engineer a platform for FWD or RWD.