More on Toyota. How to save your company $100, the heck with the customer

[r0tor]

It just dawned on me that the real problem is the Toyota drivers are actually just falling asleep at the wheel... cause well they are driving toyotas

[GoCougs]

this seems to have been all swept under the rug now... no more media outlets will follow from fear of more egg on their face

Perhaps Toyota was being crafty like a fox, and was just waiting for the media and otherwise entities other than Toyota to tell the world that it's stupid drivers not Toyota's cars that are to blame.

[GoCougs]

It just dawned on me that the real problem is the Toyota drivers are actually just falling asleep at the wheel... cause well they are driving toyotas

That's a good one! All nice and unique and what not...

[Byteme]

Perhaps Toyota was being crafty like a fox, and was just waiting for the media and otherwise entities other than Toyota to tell the world that it's stupid drivers not Toyota's cars that are to blame.

Or they don't really know what the fuck is wrong with their cars. 

[Byteme]

This has been an expensive ride for Toyota.  Best estimates are that the cost of repairs and lost sales will be around $2,000,000,000 ith the cost of added incentives Toyota has implemented to prop up sales costing another $1,000,000,000 through the end of 2010.  That's a three billion dollar hit in just 2010. 

[GoCougs]

Or they don't really know what the fuck is wrong with their cars. 

Or, that they found nothing wrong.

[Byteme]

An interesting poll, especially the Ford part.

Toyota Is Dead to 44% of U.S. Buyers
By Andrea Tse   03/26/10 - 09:57 AM EDT   

NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- More than 4 of 10 Americans say that they "would definitely not buy a Toyota(TM)," according to a recent Bloomberg National Poll.

According to the poll, a full 44% of U.S. consumers say they are fully shunning Toyota, amid the automaker's massive vehicle recalls and public relations debacle. Of those 44%, 39% cited the recent recall as the reason for why they would not buy Toyota. The poll shows that 36% of the polltakers view Toyota unfavorably, while 49% or less than half of polltakers view the company favorably.

Ford(F), on the other hand, has generated significant goodwill among the public, as Toyota continues to its efforts to regain public trust. Ford was viewed favorably by 77% of polltakers, exceeding Honda(HMC) -- in second place -- by seven percentage points, according to Bloomberg.

General Motors achieved a positive rating in the poll of 57%, eight months after needing government help to stay afloat. Ford was the sole U.S. automaker not to take government aid during the recent economic downturn.

The poll, taken of 1,002 adults in the U.S. between Mar. 19 to 22, also found that the perception of Toyota correlated inversely to the respondent's age; the older the respondent, the less they liked Toyota.

Toyota's share of vehicle sales in the U.S. shrunk from 15.9% the year before to 12.8% in February, according to Bloomberg,.

[Morris Minor]

Toyota to halt production at British plants
Toyota has announced it is to suspend production at its plants in Britain and France after a global sales dip in the wake of its mass safety recalls.

more... (telegraph.co.uk)

[hotrodalex]

Or they don't really know what the fuck is wrong with their cars. 

In most cases, the problem is the driver, not the car.

[Morris Minor]

In most cases, the problem is the driver, not the car.

A Deep Dive Into Toyota Sudden Acceleration Accident Stats
http://bit.ly/cbkixm
(Business Insider)

Lots of old people, lots of immigrants.

[GoCougs]

A Deep Dive Into Toyota Sudden Acceleration Accident Stats
http://bit.ly/cbkixm
(Business Insider)

Lots of old people, lots of immigrants.

Who coincidentally would have issues with "pedal misapplication" (immigrants being new to driving and/or new to driving AT-equipped cars). And note the complaints were predominantly when starting off - stop-n-go traffic, pulling out of a driveway, etc.

The government is looking to fine Toyota for $16MM and is raising a stink about how Toyota had raised the issue of sticking pedals with European dealers a while back. However, the articles I've read is that Toyota's "issue" was as a response to complaints - again, the only "fix" was securing floor mat and installing a pedal shim (and sure enough "fixed" cars are still experiencing the problem).

[SVT32V]

A Deep Dive Into Toyota Sudden Acceleration Accident Stats
http://bit.ly/cbkixm
(Business Insider)

Lots of old people, lots of immigrants.

Not a surprise, Honda/Toyota cars are the car of choice for FOBs (fresh off the boat).  Finding an asian of any flavor not driving one of these and at best you will find them in a Nissan.

[Onslaught]

So if it's old people and immigrants that are the problem then why aren't cars made by other manufactures having the same problems? Are they idiot proof?

[SVT32V]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/europeans_warned_of_toyota_pedals_DI50a1noEl3UL1dUZnPlCJ


In November and December, Toyota engineers examined pedals from the Corollas and were able to replicate the sticking pedal problem in two of the three cases. The engineers "concluded that the phenomenon experienced in the United States was essentially the same as the phenomenon experienced in Europe," the document said.



So Toyota actually did find a problem, so much for the theory that it was never able to replicate the problem and no problem ever existed.