2010 Truck Sales for February and YTD, USA

Started by Nethead, March 04, 2010, 07:23:57 AM

Nethead

From www.pickuptrucks.com:

Update 2: February 2010 Top 10 Year-to-Date Pickup Truck Sales
Posted by Mike Levine | March 2, 2010

Top 10 Pickup Truck Sales in February 2010

No. 1: Ford F-Series
60,525 +23.9% YTD
February 2010: 32,895
February 2009: 23,614

No. 2: Chevrolet Silverado
42,594 -2.7% YTD
February 2010: 19,822
February 2009: 19,788

No. 3: Dodge Ram
20,224 -26% YTD
February 2010: 10,267
February 2009: 14,488

No. 4: Toyota Tacoma
15,072 +1.3% YTD
February 2010: 8,325
February 2009: 7,874

No. 5: GMC Sierra
13,567 -5.9% YTD
February 2010: 6,296
February 2009: 6,400

No. 6: Toyota Tundra
9,372 -23.7% YTD
February 2010: 5,468
February 2009: 5,726

No. 7: Ford Ranger
7,849 +22.4% YTD
February 2010: 3,706
February 2009: 3,597

No. 8: Nissan Frontier
4,487 +39.3% YTD
February 2010: 2,532
February 2009: 1,617

No. 9: Nissan Titan
3,213 +8.3% YTD
February 2010: 1,721
February 2009: 1,508

No. 10: Chevrolet Colorado
3,186 -37.5% YTD
February 2010: 1,247
February 2009: 1,685

Notable Items:
- Chevrolet Colorado slips to the number 10 spot behind the Nissan Titan
- Through February, Ford F-Series trucks are outselling combined sales of Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra
So many stairs...so little time...

S204STi

I had no idea Nissan's truck sales were so far off the rest.  I would have expected Frontier sales to be stronger, at least.

A friend of mine bought a Tacoma last month, so that contributes to that improvement. :praise:

SVT666

Ford outsold GMC and Chevy combined.  The Ranger increased by over 22%?  Wow.

Nethead

#3
Quote from: R-inge on March 04, 2010, 07:36:26 AM
I had no idea Nissan's truck sales were so far off the rest.  I would have expected Frontier sales to be stronger, at least.

A friend of mine bought a Tacoma last month, so that contributes to that improvement. :praise:

R-inge:  Yep, the Taco snagged fourth overall by a substantial margin!  Despite all of Toyota's misfortunes of late!
So many stairs...so little time...

3.0L V6

Quote from: SVT666 on March 04, 2010, 10:13:41 AM
Ford outsold GMC and Chevy combined.  The Ranger increased by over 22%?  Wow.

You can get a base Ranger in Canada for less than $14k, as per the build it yourself pricing. Haggling at the dealer could knock some more cash off too.

Pancor

Quote from: 3.0L V6 on March 04, 2010, 01:26:24 PM
You can get a base Ranger in Canada for less than $14k, as per the build it yourself pricing. Haggling at the dealer could knock some more cash off too.

Local dealer here just had a sale that put them under $10k!

Galaxy

Why is the Ram constantly behind the Silverado and the F-Series by a long shot? Is it simply buyer loyalty to Ford, GM or is there an objective reason that makes Ford, GM the better products to buy?

GoCougs

Quote from: Galaxy on March 04, 2010, 02:15:21 PM
Why is the Ram constantly behind the Silverado and the F-Series by a long shot? Is it simply buyer loyalty to Ford, GM or is there an objective reason that makes Ford, GM the better products to buy?

Dodge trucks' sales have been playing third fiddle for 40 years at least; meaning, it's always how it's been; a lot of it was owing IMO to the fact that Dodge had the same truck from '72 - '93, and itself wasn't a very good truck (I owned two of them).

Payman

Quote from: GoCougs on March 04, 2010, 02:51:59 PM
Dodge trucks' sales have been playing third fiddle for 40 years at least; meaning, it's always how it's been; a lot of it was owing IMO to the fact that Dodge had the same truck from '72 - '93, and itself wasn't a very good truck (I owned two of them).

Yep. Dodge trucks have always trailed the others. However, the 1994 model improved sales by something like 500% over the '93 model, and has remained a respectable seller since. I'll pick the Dodge over the other two every time. As for the Ford outselling the GM trucks, that's for the first time in what, 25 years or so?

Tave

I think it has done it a few times recently.
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

3.0L V6

Quote from: Rockraven on March 04, 2010, 04:51:52 PM
Yep. Dodge trucks have always trailed the others. However, the 1994 model improved sales by something like 500% over the '93 model, and has remained a respectable seller since. I'll pick the Dodge over the other two every time. As for the Ford outselling the GM trucks, that's for the first time in what, 25 years or so?

The new Ram has a coil-spring rear suspension - apparently it's wonderful for smoothing out the ride without sacrificing much in the way of hauling capacity. It's also the best looking of the big pickups on the market today - not too garish like the Ford. Also, a 390hp Hemi doesn't hurt either.  If I was in the market, I'd buy one.


the Teuton

Quote from: 3.0L V6 on March 04, 2010, 06:47:25 PM
The new Ram has a coil-spring rear suspension - apparently it's wonderful for smoothing out the ride without sacrificing much in the way of hauling capacity. It's also the best looking of the big pickups on the market today - not too garish like the Ford. Also, a 390hp Hemi doesn't hurt either.  If I was in the market, I'd buy one.



From the perspective of a non-truck person who has driven all of the standard V8 models other than the Titan, I think the Ram is the most livable.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

S204STi

The previous gen Ram was pretty "meh" imo, but I haven't driven the current model.  It may be very nice.

the Teuton

Quote from: R-inge on March 04, 2010, 07:38:11 PM
The previous gen Ram was pretty "meh" imo, but I haven't driven the current model.  It may be very nice.

Oh, trust me, it's the bomb diggity of Truckville.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

Tave

The previous Ram was a plain Jane, but as a work truck it beat the snot out of GM and Ford.
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

SVT666

I loved my 2005 Ram.  I miss the fuck out of it.  The new one would be at the top of my shopping list too.

S204STi

I think the problem is that little guys like me feel out of place in those things.

Tave

I've been driving the Aveo for so long that I too feel very out of place in a full-size.
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Nethead

#18
Quote from: the Teuton on March 04, 2010, 07:45:50 PM
Oh, trust me, it's the bomb diggity of Truckville.

the Teuton:  No, the Raptor is the bomb diggity of Truckville.  Trust me.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/name-that-exhaust-note-episode-29/

And that's before the 6.2L, which is probably sold out for 2010 and likely 2011 by now.
So many stairs...so little time...

GoCougs

The Ram's coil rear suspension is most certainly something to behold, and the logical progression toward the inevitable IRS. However, though its power train seemingly has good numbers, its performance has been sub par both in terms of economy and acceleration relative to the rest of the class. GM is definitely building the best domestic truck; my favorite being the Silverado 1/2-ton w/6.2L and 6sp AT.

SVT666

Quote from: GoCougs on March 05, 2010, 02:40:47 PM
The Ram's coil rear suspension is most certainly something to behold, and the logical progression toward the inevitable IRS. However, though its power train seemingly has good numbers, its performance has been sub par both in terms of economy and acceleration relative to the rest of the class. GM is definitely building the best domestic truck; my favorite being the Silverado 1/2-ton w/6.2L and 6sp AT.

Once again, you're wrong.

GoCougs

Quote from: SVT666 on March 05, 2010, 03:00:18 PM
Once again, you're wrong.

You've caught me off guard - are you apologizing for the Ram or for the Ford?

SVT666

Quote from: GoCougs on March 06, 2010, 03:46:46 PM
You've caught me off guard - are you apologizing for the Ram or for the Ford?
Apologizing?  Oh okay.  I apologize for the fact that both the Ram and the Ford are better trucks then the Chevy.  I apologize for assuming you knew something about trucks.  I apologize for you being a GM apologist.

GoCougs

Quote from: SVT666 on March 06, 2010, 03:49:09 PM
Apologizing?  Oh okay.  I apologize for the fact that both the Ram and the Ford are better trucks then the Chevy.  I apologize for assuming you knew something about trucks.  I apologize for you being a GM apologist.

Both? Nice. I hit the jackpot.

Ford's lousy (diesel) and embarrassingly anemic (gas) engines keep it out of first by default. To this I can't entertain any argument.

I'll admit it's pretty close between GM and Dodge; IMO GM's all around slightly better drive trains outweigh the Ram's rear coil suspension.


TBR

Quote from: GoCougs on March 06, 2010, 04:00:39 PM
Both? Nice. I hit the jackpot.

Ford's lousy (diesel) and embarrassingly anemic (gas) engines keep it out of first by default. To this I can't entertain any argument.

I'll admit it's pretty close between GM and Dodge; IMO GM's all around slightly better drive trains outweigh the Ram's rear coil suspension.



The Ram's suspension is "most certainly something to behold" yet GM's marginally better drive trains outweigh it? Even though, per C/D's March 2009 comparison test, the Silverado was not faster than the Ram in a single acceleration test? And Ford's gas engine is "embarrassingly anemic" even though it's no more than .4 seconds slower than a comparable Silverado in every acceleration test C/D performs that doesn't involve 90+ mph speeds?  You are off your rockers.

The Silverado's only power train edge is slightly better gas mileage.

the Teuton

Quote from: Nethead on March 05, 2010, 01:12:06 PM
the Teuton:  No, the Raptor is the bomb diggity of Truckville.  Trust me.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/name-that-exhaust-note-episode-29/

And that's before the 6.2L, which is probably sold out for 2010 and likely 2011 by now.

Sure it is, but the $25-30k F-150 feels like it has Viagra stuck in the suspension. It's stiff.

The Ram hauls almost as well but with a much more comfortable ride.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

GoCougs

Quote from: TBR on March 06, 2010, 04:18:31 PM
The Ram's suspension is "most certainly something to behold" yet GM's marginally better drive trains outweigh it? Even though, per C/D's March 2009 comparison test, the Silverado was not faster than the Ram in a single acceleration test? And Ford's gas engine is "embarrassingly anemic" even though it's no more than .4 seconds slower than a comparable Silverado in every acceleration test C/D performs that doesn't involve 90+ mph speeds?  You are off your rockers.

The Silverado's only power train edge is slightly better gas mileage.


"Off my rockers?" Why do you chronically insist in standing in front of the bus that is my Internetry?

The Silverado tested was the 310 hp 5.3L. The Ram tested was w/the optional 390 hp 5.7L. (Meaning, the Silverado w/403 hp 6.2L & 6sp AT walks the Ram.)





SVT666

Oh Cougs you make me laugh. It walks the Ram?  LOL!  Those snemic engines in the Ford are more then enough to do the job in a half ton.  My old Ram with 345hp had way more then enough power.  Way more then enough.  If you "need" more then the F-150's anemic powertrain, then you also need more then a half ton. These aren't sports cars. If the engine is more then sufficient to do the job, then its the rest of the truck that matters...and the F-150 and Ram are better in all other aspects of what makes a truck good.

GoCougs

Quote from: SVT666 on March 06, 2010, 04:50:54 PM
Oh Cougs you make me laugh. It walks the Ram?  LOL!  Those snemic engines in the Ford are more then enough to do the job in a half ton.  My old Ram with 345hp had way more then enough power.  Way more then enough.  If you "need" more then the F-150's anemic powertrain, then you also need more then a half ton. These aren't sports cars. If the engine is more then sufficient to do the job, then its the rest of the truck that matters...and the F-150 and Ram are better in all other aspects of what makes a truck good.

Yes, the GM 6.2L utterly walks the 5.7L Ram; it's pretty much neck-n-neck with Tundra - 0-60 in ~6 sec and 1/4 mile in the mid/upper 14 sec range. Or in other words, a full second faster than the Ram, which is ~7+ truck lengths.

Granted, the utility of having such a fast 1/2-ton truck is not the be-all and end-all but at the end of the day trucks are meant for hauling and pulling and otherwise the usage of power, and more power = better utility. Any counter argument to this is simply continued apologism.

At least Dodge tries with its power trains. The 4.7L and 5.7L post good power numbers, but they've just fallen a bit flat still sticking with 5 sp ATs. The Cummins of course is top notch.

Ford is plain fail in the truck power train department save for the 6.8L V10. Just plain fail.

3.0L V6

Quote from: GoCougs on March 06, 2010, 05:18:23 PM
Yes, the GM 6.2L utterly walks the 5.7L Ram; it's pretty much neck-n-neck with Tundra - 0-60 in ~6 sec and 1/4 mile in the mid/upper 14 sec range. Or in other words, a full second faster than the Ram, which is ~7+ truck lengths.

Granted, the utility of having such a fast 1/2-ton truck is not the be-all and end-all but at the end of the day trucks are meant for hauling and pulling and otherwise the usage of power, and more power = better utility. Any counter argument to this is simply continued apologism.

At least Dodge tries with its power trains. The 4.7L and 5.7L post good power numbers, but they've just fallen a bit flat still sticking with 5 sp ATs. The Cummins of course is top notch.

Ford is plain fail in the truck power train department save for the 6.8L V10. Just plain fail.


Um, I'd say 'walks' the Ram might be an exaggeration - as per PickupTrucks.com

http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2008/11/quarter-mile-dr.html

Chevrolet: 15.52 @ 94mph
Dodge: 15.80 @ 91mph

Yeah, it's faster, but it's about what the extra 20hp and gearing might give it.

But I totally agree on the Ford - that 5.4 is outclassed pretty badly. It was 16.96 @ 86mph - those extra cubic inches of the Dodge and Chev really come into play.