Consumer Reports warns against buying Lexus GX SUV

[Speed_Racer]

Judging by the videos of the test, it seems almost as if the stability control (anti-yaw) is acting to create the skid.

It was a sick drift.

[ifcar]

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/14/why-the-lexus-gx-may-be-rollover-prone/

[MX793]

They stayed the heck out of them.
On the sunvisor of my dad's (older) Cherokee there are big big warnings about the fact that it will tip easier than a regular car. Yellow and black warnings. 

I wish the SUV craze would go away, but I doubt it will.
(it makes it harder to see traffic with all those excessively tall trucks.)

You just need to buy a taller truck so you can see over the other cars in traffic.

[Galaxy]

It is now being recalled.

[Catman]

It is now being recalled.

Update on the stability control?

[Galaxy]

Update on the stability control?

Yes.

http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-consumer-safety-advisory-102572.aspx


I am surprised that their QC missed something as obvious as a stability control system not working.

[ifcar]

Yes.

http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-consumer-safety-advisory-102572.aspx


I am surprised that their QC missed something as obvious as a stability control system not working.

To be fair, it's stability control not working in one particular case. But yes, it does seem that everyone else caught it for their SUVs.

[Raza]

So, by extension a vehicle that doesn't have any stability control is dangerous? It may not intervene as soon as other stability control systems but CR is over reacting by calling this "unsafe" and otherwise showing its colors to be the exceedingly mediocre publication it has always been when it comes to car tech.

I agree.  This smells a lot like the Suzuki Samurai incident from years back (of which my knowledge is all third hand, I admit), and perhaps a bit of a ploy for CR's circulation numbers.

"Toyota has more problems!  Read more inside!"

[Galaxy]

To be fair, it's stability control not working in one particular case. But yes, it does seem that everyone else caught it for their SUVs.

The emergency avoidance test is a pretty routine test though, which is why I find it so surprising.

[Galaxy]

So, by extension a vehicle that doesn't have any stability control is dangerous? It may not intervene as soon as other stability control systems but CR is over reacting by calling this "unsafe" and otherwise showing its colors to be the exceedingly mediocre publication it has always been when it comes to car tech.

If the boat has no lifevests then you know that you better be able to swim if you want to survive a capsizing. If however the boat does have lifevests then one should be able to expect that they will keep you're head above water.

[Raza]

Toyota has suspended sales in the US of the Lexus GX.

After the unintended acceleration issues, they pretty much have to at this point, don't they?

[Byteme]

After the unintended acceleration issues, they pretty much have to at this point, don't they?

After the allegations of trying to hide the acceleration issues and evading responsibility, Toyota would be insane not to act swiftly and decisively on this problem.

[Galaxy]

The Citroen Nemo, and the Peugeot Bipper Tepee also tip over. The sister van Fiat Qubo has ESP.

http://www.focus.de/auto/news/adac-crashtest-hochdachkombis-kippen-beim-ausweichen_aid_502198.html

Well at least the roof structure is sound.


Btw, my original thread in Mainstreams about these cars seems to have deleted itself.

[2o6]

Didn't the Citroen Berlingo do a very funky looking skiing dance in this test?+

[r0tor]

It saddens me that the ability to do a sweet drift is "dangerous" to the point of needing an immediate stoppage of sales... God I don't want to find out how overerly aggressive all DSC systems will now be tuned by all manufacturers