Parents want a new car!

[BimmerM3]

Wait, comfy+luxo?

C-Class anyone?

but even a C300 Auto is more than $35k without any other options.

[Rich]

300C Hemi?

Charger R/T?

[S204STi]

Subaru Legacy.

It's built in Indiana, so it ain't Japanese.

[the Teuton]

Sonata Limited...or when does the terbow come out?

[CALL_911]

but even a C300 Auto is more than $35k without any other options.

CPO FTW

[the Teuton]

Why are you all being so ostentatious? BTW, what is this car effectively replacing?

[SVT_Power]

Why are you all being so ostentatious? BTW, what is this car effectively replacing?

This is replacing the explorer.

[Jon?]

I rode in a Taurus Limited the other day.  Very nice car.  Tons of room.  Huge trunk.  And you can get it in AWD if necessary.

[Byteme]

Tell them to get a Fusion.

[Raza]

You ever sit in the CC? I adjusted the seat to where I felt comfortable, and when I tried to get out I banged my head on the roof

I'm assuming you bang your head into things a lot then.


The CC probably has the best seats of all the VWs.  I loved my B5's seats (my Jetta doesn't have as much lumbar support), but I know a guy who jumped out of a Viggen into a CC and he loves the seats. 

I think the standard Passat would make more sense than the CC, but that's up to your parents to decide.  And, if I'm being completely honest, I think the standard Passat looks better, despite being less stylish (and being available with a real sunroof instead of the non-opening panoramic glass that the CC has is a definite plus in my book). 

But, the LaCrosse was the first car that came to mind. 

[WookieOnRitalin]

Since my other post got put in the other thread.

Sedan:
-Loaded Jetta TDI
-Loaded Sonata
-Loaded Malibu
-New Buick Regal (Available summer)

SUV:
-Sorento
-Equinox
-Tiguan

[Jon?]

Since my other post got put in the other thread.

Sedan:
-Loaded Jetta
-Loaded Sonata
-Loaded Malibu
-New Buick Regal (Available summer)
-New Taurus
-New Lacrosse

I'd add those two as well.

[SVT_Power]

Went to a load of dealerships today.

CPO BMW is out - I cannot stand BMW sales people. Yeah I'm only 20, but you wanna ignore me when I step into your showroom? You can go fuck yourselves. Too bad too, I would've really pushed for a CPO 5er for my mom.

Got brochures and numbers for:

Hyundai - Sonata and Genesis
GM - Lacrosse, CTS
Ford/Lincoln - Taurus, Fusion, MKZ
VW - Passat/CC/Wagon

I only bothered driving the Passat CC, and I was actually very impressed. Everytime I sat in one I was always bugged by the visibility but when I actually drove it, it's not that bad. Underpowered though (but we did have 3 guys in the car for the test drive).

[SVT_Power]

After sitting in the Genesis, the Sonata's interior is no match. Yeah I know we're talking about cars that have more than $10k base price difference, but a top of the line Sonata with navi is only 5k or so below the Genesis. The Sonata's interior does look very nice, but materials are meh.

I didn't spend too much time in the GM dealership actually looking at the car because the sales guy was a real car guy. He collected cars - 69 GTO, 80s Bentley, 65 Mustang, etc etc. But I remember being very impressed by the Lacrosse's interior last time I was in it. The CTS will have to be a very base model because of it's MSRP.

From the Ford lineup, I think the Taurus is simply too big. But MKZ on the other hand seemed very attractive. The dealership was offering $10k off the MSRP for their MKZ's before I even talked about price. They were asking $35k for a AWD version with sunroof (MSRP is about $45k). And $32k for a FWD one with sunroof - works out for us since my mom really wants a sunroof this time around.

Now the VW's. I'm really warming up to the CC. I think I'd go for the middle of the range highline - 4k above the base model, you get 18", xenons, touchscreen stereo, leather (vs. leatherette), brushed aluminum trim, etc. The MSRP for the highline was just about $40k, which is right around the Genesis's base price.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Fusion Sport AWD Sunroof 263 hp DOHC Duratak 3.5L V6 with six speed automagic $28,725.

[SVT_Power]

Fusion Sport AWD msrp is $36k, but online says after "MSRP adjustment", it's $31k.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Fusion Sport AWD msrp is $36k, but online says after "MSRP adjustment", it's $31k.

canadian?

[SVT_Power]

Of course.

[68_427]

$10K off MKZ is a great deal.  Do you plan on driving one?

[Catman]

Fusion Sport AWD Sunroof 263 hp DOHC Duratak 3.5L V6 with six speed automagic $28,725.

Awesome choice.  Racist approved.

[dazzleman]

Eddie, do they have a grudge against Japan because the Japanese previously ruled (and mistreated) Korea?

[dazzleman]

Went to a load of dealerships today.

CPO BMW is out - I cannot stand BMW sales people. Yeah I'm only 20, but you wanna ignore me when I step into your showroom? You can go fuck yourselves. Too bad too, I would've really pushed for a CPO 5er for my mom.

Got brochures and numbers for:

Hyundai - Sonata and Genesis
GM - Lacrosse, CTS
Ford/Lincoln - Taurus, Fusion, MKZ
VW - Passat/CC/Wagon

I only bothered driving the Passat CC, and I was actually very impressed. Everytime I sat in one I was always bugged by the visibility but when I actually drove it, it's not that bad. Underpowered though (but we did have 3 guys in the car for the test drive).

Too bad you don't live around here.  I could hook you up with my salesman.  He's pretty cool.

[SVT_Power]

Fusion Sport AWD Sunroof 263 hp DOHC Duratak 3.5L V6 with six speed automagic $28,725.

Awesome choice.  Racist approved.

Don't forget the primary driver of the car (as in pretty much the ONLY driver) will be my mom.

[SVT_Power]

Eddie, do they have a grudge against Japan because the Japanese previously ruled (and mistreated) Korea?

I think it started from there 

I never really asked

[Vinsanity]

Eddie, do they have a grudge against Japan because the Japanese previously ruled (and mistreated) Korea?

I think that's how a lot of older generation Koreans are, and if I'm not mistaken, yes, it does stem from that. My dad's bosses at his old job were a Korean couple, and although they had Japanese clients, things were always touchy with them. Also, they never had any Japanese cars.

The younger generation is a lot more open. A Japanese-American coworker of mine is married to a Korean-American woman.

[Vinsanity]

back on topic, if they can actually get a Genesis for $35k, then I'd say that's the best bet. I'd strongly suggest a certified Cadillac CTS if they're willing to go used, as that allows you to get that actually has options in it.

if used is a possibility:
Volvo S80?
Buick Enclave?

[omicron]

I think you should move to a proper country and get an Alfa 159 Ti!

[Submariner]

Passat CC 3.6 pls.  

***Edit***

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-VW-Passat-VR6-3-6L-4Motion-Very-Low-Mileage_W0QQitemZ170472676544QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item27b0f69cc0#ht_500wt_1182

Yummmmmmmmmm 

Used 3.6 4-Motion for 24k.  It's not a CC,but still...

[the Teuton]

Your parents don't have any kids left in the house. Your mom doesn't drive stick. If they need to have a four-door, they can rent. May I suggest one of the best midlife crisis used buys ever (hand) built?

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=252817889&dealer_id=566382&car_year=2004&doors=&systime=&listingCounter=0&model=&adModel=&search_lang=en&style_flag=1&start_year=1991&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&lastStartYear=1981&distance=0&min_price=&rdm=1272206587533&drive=&marketZipError=false&advanced=&fuel=&listingPriority=30&keywords_display=&end_year=2011&showZipError=y&make2=&certified=&engine=&adBodyStyle=&page_location=findacar::ispsearchform&body_code=0&transmission=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&address=15213&color=&sort_type=priceDESC&adMake=MAS&max_price=35000&awsp=false&adClassSeries=&make=MAS&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=452

You can thank me later.

[the Teuton]

On second thought, if they need four doors...

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=275647401&dealer_id=100018052&car_year=2005&rdm=1272206587533&lastStartYear=1981&num_records=25&model=&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1991&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&fuel=&body_code=0&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=y&first_record=26&make=MAS&color=&keywords_display=&page_location=findacar::ispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=15213&advanced=&end_year=2011&pager.offset=25&transmission=&doors=&max_price=35000&cardist=2135&standard=false