lol douche BMW driver is a douche.

[Rupert]

Your attorney sounds like Saul Goodman.

[Rich]

This feels fake as shit. Homeboy just happens to be videotaping a random drive when this goes down? Riiiiiiight........

There's tons of videos on youtube just of MINIs driving roads in the NC mountains.  There's tons of people that videotape winding road drives

[Cookie Monster]

Sure he might really love cars and tape some of his drives for fun. But he just happens to be taping when something this weird happens?

If you believe that, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...

So everything on the internet that's weird is fake, huh?

[2o6]

So everything on the internet that's weird is fake, huh?

Tave is a lawyer, don't take it personal.

[Tave]

There's tons of videos on youtube just of MINIs driving roads in the NC mountains.  There's tons of people that videotape winding road drives

Must I repeat myself?

Obviously people videotape their drives. Plenty of members on this forum have taped drives. I myself have taped drives.

Few (if any) manage to capture something as bizarre as this. The guy isn't even close to tailgating him. It's funny (strange/weird) because it's so incredible. 95% chance this is pure fake and the two drivers are just hamming it up for the camera (i.e. YouTube views).

So everything on the internet that's weird is fake, huh?

Not everything. Only fake shit as obvious as this.

[Tave]

Note also, 99% of the true "weird" camera-moments come from cameras that are constantly rolling (police cameras, security cameras, etc...). This is staged, mark my words.

[Tave]

Listen to it again. Notice the camera-man's demeanor. Not only is he totally calm, which rules out most normal people, but he is completely unsurprised, even when he pulls away. Think about how you would react in such a situation. Even if you didn't say something to the guy, wouldn't you have a 'WTF' moment once it was over? Anyone who experienced that would have been a) cursing the douchebag as you drove away, or b) laughing your ass off uncontrollably. Our Mazda driver doesn't say anything.

[GoCougs]

I don't think it was staged. If so, wouldn't the MS3 driver act a part too? Would've made for a much more interesting video if both were shouting insults at each other. I do agree he acted strangely calm, especially considering an aggressor as unimposing and non-physical as this douche. Plus, the BMW driver did not seem to be acting (most people are absolute HORRIBLE actors). Here's how I think it went down:

I noted in my first post, I think there's more to the story. I think the two tangled prior to the incident that was shown. This is where the "riding" charge comes from, or some other act the MS3 driver committed that agitated the BMW driver. Knowing that they had a prior confrontation, knowing that the he did something to upset the BMW driver, and knowing the camera was rolling, thus explains the MS3 driver's calmness.

[Tave]

I don't think it was staged. If so, wouldn't the MS3 driver act a part too? Would've made for a much more interesting video if both were shouting insults at each other. I do agree he acted strangely calm, especially considering an aggressor as unimposing and non-physical as this douche. Plus, the BMW driver did not seem to be acting (most people are absolute HORRIBLE actors). Here's how I think it went down:

I noted in my first post, I think there's more to the story. I think the two tangled prior to the incident that was shown. This is where the "riding" charge comes from, or some other act the MS3 driver committed that agitated the BMW driver. Knowing that they had a prior confrontation, knowing that the he did something to upset the BMW driver, and knowing the camera was rolling, thus explains the MS3 driver's calmness.

That's the only other explanation.

[hotrodalex]

Actually, since the point of the video is showing how douche-y the BMW driver is, the MS3 driver wouldn't have yelled back if it was staged. He would have acted like he did to show that normal people don't act like the BMW driver.

[AutobahnSHO]

I would've been like the Mazda driver if it happened to me...   

[rohan]

IMO, you two are heavily vested in that particular side of the law. My attorney, who also is a civil defense attorney, teaches classes and covers these types of scenarios in his classes. I'll bet my interpretation based upon his classes against what rohan has stated, and that which you apparently endorse.

Had the BMW driver not done all three of those things; blocking, threatening, approaching; then yes, I'd agree had the MS3 driver responded with some sort of force, he would be in trouble. Either way, if it does ultimately turn out to be outside the law the law is immoral law as much of it is.

So you're basing your course of action in a criminal matter on what a tort lawyer tells you to do?   

I think we're done here.

[Onslaught]

I had something almost just like this happen to me when I was about 17 or so. Guy got out and started talking shit. I was a kid and he was way bigger so I didn't get all bad ass on him.
I also didn't have a recording device in the car at the time. I could see this happening because it did happen to me.

[Minpin]

So you're basing your course of action in a criminal matter on what a tort lawyer tells you to do?   

I think we're done here.

I'm surprised you entertained him for so long. 

[GoCougs]

So you're basing your course of action in a criminal matter on what a tort lawyer tells you to do?   

I think we're done here.

Did I not mention one of his specialties was civil defense issues (a criminal matter)?

(Yes, I did.)

[Jon?]

I had something almost just like this happen to me when I was about 17 or so. Guy got out and started talking shit. I was a kid and he was way bigger so I didn't get all bad ass on him.
I also didn't have a recording device in the car at the time. I could see this happening because it did happen to me.

Dude, this is the internet.  I think you meant to say something cool like, "He'd have been sorry if it had been me in the Mazda."

[Tave]

Did I not mention one of his specialties was civil defense issues (a criminal matter)?

(Yes, I did.)

Civil defense attorneys defend civil defendants. Criminal defense attorneys defend criminal defendants.

[dazzleman]

I had something almost just like this happen to me when I was about 17 or so. Guy got out and started talking shit. I was a kid and he was way bigger so I didn't get all bad ass on him.
I also didn't have a recording device in the car at the time. I could see this happening because it did happen to me.

I had something similar to me at 16 in the parking lot of a shopping mall.  Some guy cut me off, parked his car across the lane where I was driving, and then came up to my car and tried to open the door.  I threw the car in reverse, backed up at an angle hitting him slightly with the front corner of the car, and then took off around his car.  Too bad I didn't run the mother fucker over.  I'd have had no remorse for that.

[hotrodalex]

I would've been like the Mazda driver if it happened to me...   

Me too. Of course there's a good chance I would be driving my BMW so the guy wouldn't have gotten out.

[Submariner]

That's the only other explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS11ATrNA3A

[rohan]

Did I not mention one of his specialties was civil defense issues (a criminal matter)?

(Yes, I did.)

You funny

[hotrodalex]

lawl wtf

[MrH]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS11ATrNA3A

I like that he took their keys and made them walk to go get them.

[GoCougs]

Civil defense attorneys defend civil defendants. Criminal defense attorneys defend criminal defendants.

Okay, fair enough, but the operative point being what you do is independent if you're going to have civil or criminal fall-out from an incident.

[Tave]

Well the standards for negligence and criminal liability are different. Generally speaking, negligence (civil liability) is a lot broader.

Let's say you mace the guy, and let's say that in your jurisdiction, under the given facts, it wasn't a criminal act. You might still receive an adverse verdict (have to pay $Texas) if the court/jury determines that you acted negligently.

So just because an act isn't criminal, doesn't make it a smart thing to do. And in this hypothetical (assuming your conduct was tortuous), you'd be committing an intentional tort, which would expose you to punitive damages.

[Rupert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS11ATrNA3A

I was hoping that he would take them to a windy sports car road, out-drive the shit out of them, and they would crash.