Sell your car, and replace it!

[68_427]

Yes.  I'm not quite sure how I did that, but you could equate things.  Take 16qts every 3000miles... that's a quart every 187.5 miles.  Ya hurrd?

[ChrisV]

440ftlb is evough to tow any trailer he's towing with his Range Rover.

Yeah, well, the reason I'm thinking of it is I want to tow a travel trailer that's just at the limits of the Rangie's 7000 lb towing capacity. The 3500lb one we have now is easy to tow (just towed it over the Appalacians and Alleghanies to Ohio last week in 90 degree weather with no issues).

That 6.5 turbo diesel one towed a couple cars on a car trailer from Nashville with no issues, and I know a lot of people that use them for towing larger 5th wheel trailers and horse trailers that are over 7-10,000 lbs. I'm looking to get a 27-30 ft travel trailer in the 6500-7500lb range empty.

[SVT666]

Yeah, well, the reason I'm thinking of it is I want to tow a travel trailer that's just at the limits of the Rangie's 7000 lb towing capacity. The 3500lb one we have now is easy to tow (just towed it over the Appalacians and Alleghanies to Ohio last week in 90 degree weather with no issues).

That 6.5 turbo diesel one towed a couple cars on a car trailer from Nashville with no issues, and I know a lot of people that use them for towing larger 5th wheel trailers and horse trailers that are over 7-10,000 lbs. I'm looking to get a 27-30 ft travel trailer in the 6500-7500lb range empty.

Add another 1500 lbs for stuff.

[68_427]

Add another 1500 lbs for stuff.

Probably more.  When we go camping we have almost that much in the bed of the truck.  But we usually bring too much stuff just in case.  The water weighs alot too.

[Vinsanity]

I always wondered how much more optimistic the tow ratings in UK/Europe are, ever since I saw the Top Gear guys tow their caravan with that small ass Kia.

Granted, the caravan was pretty small as well, but noone in the U.S. would even think of towing anything with that type of car.

[68_427]

Actually there's a lot of families that think they can get by towing a 20ft+ travel trailer with their Sienna/Caravan etc.   On various trip to Camping World (Formerly Meyer's RV) I've seen at least one family being told their Minivan can't tow the trailer they want.  Then they go buy something for men with vaginas like a Ridgeline.   

[2o6]

I always wondered how much more optimistic the tow ratings in UK/Europe are, ever since I saw the Top Gear guys tow their caravan with that small ass Kia.

Granted, the caravan was pretty small as well, but noone in the U.S. would even think of towing anything with that type of car.

Did you see how poorly it was towing it? It only got up to 50MPH.

[the Teuton]

Yes.  I'm not quite sure how I did that, but you could equate things.  Take 16qts every 3000miles... that's a quart every 187.5 miles.  Ya hurrd?

My car does something like that.

[68_427]

My friend puts 3qts in his Celica every week and a half.  So about 70 miles.

[the Teuton]

My friend puts 3qts in his Celica every week and a half.  So about 70 miles.

And you guys make fun of me...

I'm doing about a half to 3/4 of a quart ever 130 miles or so.

[Vinsanity]

Did you see how poorly it was towing it? It only got up to 50MPH.

yup, and that wasn't surprising. What was surprising was the implication that this is acceptable in Europe

[68_427]

Yeah his car is pretty bad.  But if someone is riding his ass he can smoke them out on demand.

[68_427]

yup, and that wasn't surprising. What was surprising was the implication that this is acceptable in Europe

Not only that but it was Tow Car of The Year

[the Teuton]

Yeah his car is pretty bad.  But if someone is riding his ass he can smoke them out on demand.

Oh Cheesus H. Crust...

[Raza]

My car does something like that.

A quart every 187 miles!?  I'd need to add oil every other day. 

[ChrisV]

Probably more.  When we go camping we have almost that much in the bed of the truck.  But we usually bring too much stuff just in case.  The water weighs alot too.

Actually, We don't travel with water in the tanks. Always get water hookups at the campground and dump the black and gray before leaving. And we don't load the trailer down with a bunch of crap. But yeah, you can say that other than the truck and trailer, there's about 500 lbs of stuff that goes with us. But after RVing a lot, we just find it occasionally a bit too cramped in the 19 footer, even with the fold out ends:



And setting up/taking down the folding tent ends in the rain has proven to be less than fun. So I want an internal bedroom.

I've done camping in tents, hiking in to the campsite. If I want more of that, I can go out with the scout troop some more.

[hotrodalex]

Actually, We don't travel with water in the tanks. Always get water hookups at the campground and dump the black and gray before leaving. And we don't load the trailer down with a bunch of crap. But yeah, you can say that other than the truck and trailer, there's about 500 lbs of stuff that goes with us. But after RVing a lot, we just find it occasionally a bit too cramped in the 19 footer, even with the fold out ends:



And setting up/taking down the folding tent ends in the rain has proven to be less than fun. So I want an internal bedroom.

I've done camping in tents, hiking in to the campsite. If I want more of that, I can go out with the scout troop some more.

I decided that the next camping trip I go on will involve a trailer. I've grown tired of tents and tarps this summer.

[Raza]

Next time I go camping, it will involve a hotel.

[MrH]

Probably more.  When we go camping we have almost that much in the bed of the truck.  But we usually bring too much stuff just in case.  The water weighs alot too.

  That's not camping, that's called moving all your shit outside for a couple of days.

[omicron]

Next time I go camping, it will involve a hotel.

I strongly approve. Perhaps a view of the pool, if I'm feeling outdoorsy.

[68_427]

This> hotel room.





BTW Chris you should have gotten an Adirondack travel trailer.  Those suite the Rangie better.

[Raza]

This> hotel room.

Obviously, you've been staying at the wrong hotels.

[Cookie Monster]

This> hotel room.





BTW Chris you should have gotten an Adirondack travel trailer.  Those suite the Rangie better.

How is that camping? As MrH said, that's just moving your shit out of your house and then putting it back when you're done. It's dumb.

[68_427]

"Camp" = temporary living quarters. 

Travel Trailer = temporary living quarters

Travel Trailer = Camp

Using travel trailer = Camping



Times have changed and camping has evolved.

[Cookie Monster]

"Camp" = temporary living quarters. 

Travel Trailer = temporary living quarters

Travel Trailer = Camp

Using travel trailer = Camping



Times have changed and camping has evolved.

To me, it seems like you're taking your family room with you, putting it in a field, and then watching TV there. Why not just get a hotel that's much cheaper? You get the same comfort at a fraction of the cost and hassle. You're not really camping.

Plus a lot of campsites, at least the ones I've been to, won't let you park something that massive at the grounds. You get enough room for 2-3 tents at most.

[Minpin]

"Someone mentions camping"




"Vomit for 24 days"

[68_427]

To me, it seems like you're taking your family room with you, putting it in a field, and then watching TV there. Why not just get a hotel that's much cheaper? You get the same comfort at a fraction of the cost and hassle. You're not really camping.

Plus a lot of campsites, at least the ones I've been to, won't let you park something that massive at the grounds. You get enough room for 2-3 tents at most.

Having a camper gives you a lot more options than staying in Hotels. But it's personal preference.  If someone wants to buy a camper; I don't give a shit. 

[Raza]

"Camp" = temporary living quarters. 

Travel Trailer = temporary living quarters

Travel Trailer = Camp

Using travel trailer = Camping



Times have changed and camping has evolved.

Hotel = temporary living quarters

[68_427]

Hotel = Camping


Everyone's perception of camping is that it's not real camping unless your doing that bear grills thing or whatever his name is.

[Raza]

To me, camping always included a tent.   Sleeping in the woods amongst the animals and bugs and parasites and muck and disgusting heat.  I'd rent a cabin for a little while though.  Hit the river, grill every night...if only I had friends to do this shit with....