Luxury commuter car?

[Vinsanity]

Used cars got brought up and accepted by the OP in teh very first page (1st gen Acura TSX), so that opened the door to me asking this question:

"Trying to get a handle on what you want to do here: you want good fuel economy so you don't spend much money, but you want to spend a buch on a car to get luxury feel and features, offsetting ANY gains you might make in fuel economy...

Sorry, but no new car is going to save you money out of your total budget, even if it gets spectacular fuel mileage. No car that costs very little on the used car market is going to be guaranteed reliable. No car that is luxurious and cheap is going to be small and get stellar city fuel mileage."

I was specifically trying to clarify what he was trying to save: money on fuel or money on luxury. If he was looking for low TCO. it's obvious he WANTS luxury, but needs to offset that with low TCO. And if economy and low cost is a priority, then new is not the way to go. If new is the priority, then you're simply not going to be spending as little as possible to get any luxury.

Small was a requirement because it's the way to get the most luxury for a low price in a new car, but it's a compromise borne of not wanting to spend money. Why compromise when you can get luxury and size and low TCO in a slighly used full size car that gives you all the luxury you want, while costing less per month in payments/fuel/insurance (and even repairs) than a cramped new small car with luxury pretenses?

I think what Morris speculated was pretty clear in the beginning: something along the lines of an LS460 packed into the body of a Corolla. I can see such a thing being appealing to pretty much anybody who drives a lot. That way, you get new-car reliability, small-car efficiency, and luxury-car comfort. Someone who puts a lot of miles into their commute is going to appreciate all three qualities.

[CJ]

I've been filling up twice a week.  I hate it.  I hate knowing that my car might leak a little fuel and I hate the price.  I just put $41 worth of premium in the 850 yesterday.

[giant_mtb]

What's the price of premium in your area, Ceej?

[sportyaccordy]

Morris Minor also said that the sheer girth of an Infiniti G was too large for him, thus he looking for something small.

Such details are immaterial to ChrisV. It's not about what Morris wants.

[2o6]

The new Lexus CT seems to satisfy his specifications to a tee.

[ChrisV]

I think what Morris speculated was pretty clear in the beginning: something along the lines of an LS460 packed into the body of a Corolla.

But he also said why, which was to keep costs down, which is why I was trying to get clarified in my response which was the top priority. If he was settling for a small luxury car to keep costs down, then he would obviously not be getting a small luxury car because he wanted SMALL. Do you see why I was asking?

I mean, yeah, buy an overpriced, gussied up Corolla if you have to have new and small, but still wnt luxury features. But if that's not what you want, merely what you think you have to have or have to settle for, then the question is much different, and there are a number of better answers out there for your hard earned dollar.

[ChrisV]

Such details are immaterial to ChrisV. It's not about what Morris wants.

Actually it is, fuckstick, which is why I was trying to clarify his priorities, in order to find the best fit for what he WANTS vs whet he or others think he might have to settle for. But apparently reading and comprehending are not important to you, so long as you can whine about how mean I am to you.

[93JC]

Rabble rabble rabble rabble!

[2o6]

But he also said why, which was to keep costs down, which is why I was trying to get clarified in my response which was the top priority. If he was settling for a small luxury car to keep costs down, then he would obviously not be getting a small luxury car because he wanted SMALL. Do you see why I was asking?

I mean, yeah, buy an overpriced, gussied up Corolla if you have to have new and small, but still wnt luxury features. But if that's not what you want, merely what you think you have to have or have to settle for, then the question is much different, and there are a number of better answers out there for your hard earned dollar.

But he still didn't want something too big.

[FoMoJo]

GENESIS COUPE 2.0T - Automatic.  It's got paddle shifters if you're feeling sporty .

[2o6]

GENESIS COUPE 2.0T - Automatic.  It's got paddle shifters if you're feeling sporty .

Cheaper inside, and still the same size as a G.

[MX793]

But he also said why, which was to keep costs down, which is why I was trying to get clarified in my response which was the top priority. If he was settling for a small luxury car to keep costs down, then he would obviously not be getting a small luxury car because he wanted SMALL. Do you see why I was asking?

I mean, yeah, buy an overpriced, gussied up Corolla if you have to have new and small, but still wnt luxury features. But if that's not what you want, merely what you think you have to have or have to settle for, then the question is much different, and there are a number of better answers out there for your hard earned dollar.

"Costs" doesn't necessarily mean the purchase price of the vehicle.  It could also apply to operating costs (fuel consumption being one major component), which based on statements in the original post, appears to be the "cost" concern.  Further, it was made pretty clear (at least to me) that vehicle size in and of itself was not desired independent of cost.

...I don't want the bulk and expense of a large luxury car...My Pilot is too big, too unwieldy and drinks too much gas...

[MX793]

Cheaper inside, and still the same size as a G.

Sounded like he was fine with the size of the G, just didn't like having to deal with a manual in stop-and-go.

An Audi A3 is probably the closest to what Morris wants.  There's also the new Regal, which is 4-cylinder powered.  Infiniti is supposed to be releasing a 2.5L version of the G sedan soon.  And there's the IS250 which has been out for a while.  Not quite 2.0L 4-bangers, but about the smallest, non-turbocharged motors you'll find in this class.

[2o6]

Sounded like he was fine with the size of the G, just didn't like having to deal with a manual in stop-and-go.

An Audi A3 is probably the closest to what Morris wants.  There's also the new Regal, which is 4-cylinder powered.  Infiniti is supposed to be releasing a 2.5L version of the G sedan soon.  And there's the IS250 which has been out for a while.  Not quite 2.0L 4-bangers, but about the smallest, non-turbocharged motors you'll find in this class.

If he wants to wait, the Lexus CT seems to tick every box.

[68_427]

If he wants to wait, the Lexus CT seems to tick every box.

So does the MKZ.  The only box the CT ticks that the Lincoln doesn't is the omfg ugly car car box.

[2o6]

So does the MKZ.  The only box the CT ticks that the Lincoln doesn't is the omfg ugly car car box.

The CT is markedly smaller.

[SVT_Power]

Thanks to some of my friends, now anywhere I see/hear the word CT, the first thing that comes to mind is camel toe...

[93JC]

If the small Lexus is called Camel Toe, does that make the ES350 the Moose Knuckle?