FMC's Lincoln Strategy: Good, Bad, Indifferent?

Started by Atomic, August 29, 2010, 11:02:10 AM

Atomic

Is 'enhance' a good enough strategy for Lincoln?

By: Rick Kranz*

For: Automotive News

On: August 28, 2010 - 12:51 pm ET

*Rick Kranz is product editor for Automotive News

Now that Mercury is out of the way, Ford can concentrate on Lincoln, a brand that is struggling to keep its head above water.

What caught my eye was a Ford announcement in June.

The press release said the automaker ?will expand and enhance its Lincoln brand lineup with seven all-new or significantly refreshed vehicles in the next four years.?

Lincoln currently offers six vehicles -- the MKS, MKZ and Town Car sedans, the MKT and MKX crossovers, and the Navigator SUV. The Town Car is sold only to the livery business and will cease to exist sometime next year. Ford says a compact Lincoln is one of the upcoming new vehicles. As for the other vehicle, Lincoln won?t say.

The news release went on to say that this is ?part of an aggressive growth plan focused on standout product design, class-leading technology and new powertrains -- all aimed at competing with Cadillac and Lexus in North America.?

The words ?enhance? and ?significantly refreshed? stood out in this news release. Enhancing and refreshing may not be enough, though.

Look at January through July sales -- the brand failed to top 50,000. And that number includes nearly 7,000 Town Cars.

Lincoln?s design strategy isn?t drawing customers.

Maybe the words ?reinvention? or ?redesign? should be Lincoln's strategy.


i worry about the lack of rear wheel drive models and the reduction of v8's... you?

Atomic

obviously, the town car, now only sold to fleet businesses and government agencies is a lame duck. the navigator and navigator "L" (rumored to die) might switch to the 2011 ford explorer platform. i think not having a v8 when cadillac is rumored to going ahead with a heavily modified interpretation of the "sixteen" concept car (but as an "8" instead) might allow caddy to take the ball and run with it. even chrysler will have a new 300c rwd/awd to compete. i do think an explorer-based "navigator" would sell far better than the current model, but think lincoln would lose much of its cache with an escalade battler. is there room for both a car based and truck based suv class of vehicles for ford's luxury division with the mkx and mkt already struggle for market share?

Atomic

remember the lincoln "LT" pick-up? hope fmc avoids such crazy ass ideas if lincoln is to survive.

2o6


SVT666

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Ford needs to produce a new Lincoln Continental 4 door and 4 door convertible based on the Ford Forty-Nine show car.




Submariner

Lincoln blows.

But Hemi is right., the 49 is sex and a Continental could be a winner. 
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Atomic

Quote from: Submariner on August 29, 2010, 03:00:25 PM
Lincoln blows.

But Hemi is right., the 49 is sex and a Continental could be a winner. 

49 better than 69, eh  :evildude:? actually, i like the idea, too. sometimes looking back can be as important as moving forward. there have been some outstanding concepts that i would welcome.

Atomic

one thing good to say, the grille on the revised ford edge-based mkx is mighty handsome and sets this lincoln farther apart from the ford in the looks department. yet both are attractive in their own right.

the Teuton



This would have been badass, but I think the slab side era has passed.
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I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
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Laconian

Enhance won't work. Lincoln has floundered for far too long, and people no longer know what the brand is about. It needs to be rebooted or killed - staying the current meandering course won't go anywhere.
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Atomic

Quote from: Laconian on August 29, 2010, 04:11:48 PM
Enhance won't work. Lincoln has floundered for far too long, and people no longer know what the brand is about. It needs to be rebooted or killed - staying the current meandering course won't go anywhere.

good point, but didn't cadillac rise from the ashes when gm talked about shutting it down not too many years ago? the modified fins work nicely on the cts series and new srx!

2o6

The 49 looks too dated and has no international appeal.

Mustangfan2003

Lincoln needs a coupe and a flagship sedan that are both RWD.  V8 would be nice but not really needed with the ecoboost engines.

Laconian

Quote from: Atomic on August 29, 2010, 04:23:08 PM
good point, but didn't cadillac rise from the ashes when gm talked about shutting it down not too many years ago? the modified fins work nicely on the cts series and new srx!
Cadillac was rebooted, and even then, with only moderate success - DTS, STS, XLR are all sales duds in their respective markets.
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2o6

Quote from: Laconian on August 29, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
Cadillac was rebooted, and even then, with only moderate success - DTS, STS, XLR are all sales duds in their respective markets.

DTS, not really. STS, yes. Most of the STS's flaws have to do with its size. It was pretty much the same size (inside as the CTS) but more $$$.


Does the XLR even count? I don't think it was meant to move that many in the first place.

MX793

Quote from: 2o6 on August 29, 2010, 04:39:51 PM
The 49 looks too dated and has no international appeal.

Is the Lincoln brand even sold outside of North America?
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2o6

Quote from: MX793 on August 29, 2010, 05:58:31 PM
Is the Lincoln brand even sold outside of North America?


No, but they Aspire to.

Atomic

Quote from: Laconian on August 29, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
Cadillac was rebooted, and even then, with only moderate success - DTS, STS, XLR are all sales duds in their respective markets.

yes, but the "whatever the hell they call it" dts/sts one-car replacement (near-production ready) concept was an enormous hit at the autoshow this past year. what does lincoln have in its pipeline? a compact.

Atomic

Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on August 29, 2010, 05:32:40 PM
Lincoln needs a coupe and a flagship sedan that are both RWD.  V8 would be nice but not really needed with the ecoboost engines.

i hear you about the powerful ecoboost, but wonder if folks would be willing to fork over $50,000.00 grand for a 4 (rumored for lincoln) or 6 cylinder (a given). obviously, perception can sink or swim a product.

Laconian

Quote from: 2o6 on August 29, 2010, 05:58:52 PM
No, but they Aspire to.
Don't you they should get their own house in order first?
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2o6


Atomic

Quote from: 2o6 on August 29, 2010, 06:33:41 PM
Yes.

i do not think it is necessary if fmc's ford division continues is strongest line-up in decades. i am actually floored as to the success of the fusion. i am beginning to appreciate it, especially with such a strong hybrid contender. sales should be hotter than ever without its mercury milan twin, as it sold pretty well for a secondary division contender.

Mustangfan2003

Quote from: Atomic on August 29, 2010, 06:21:22 PM
i hear you about the powerful ecoboost, but wonder if folks would be willing to fork over $50,000.00 grand for a 4 (rumored for lincoln) or 6 cylinder (a given). obviously, perception can sink or swim a product.

I got a great idea for them, build a coupe that's based on the Mustang and make it a little bigger.  A 400hp ecoboost engine would work fine for this car.  As for a flagship I think it does need to offer a V8 if it wants to compete with the S class and 7 series.  Maybe even offer the powerstorke diesel since MB is about to offer an S class diesel again  :rockon:

MX793

Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on August 29, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
I got a great idea for them, build a coupe that's based on the Mustang and make it a little bigger.  A 400hp ecoboost engine would work fine for this car.  As for a flagship I think it does need to offer a V8 if it wants to compete with the S class and 7 series.  Maybe even offer the powerstorke diesel since MB is about to offer an S class diesel again  :rockon:

You mean like the Lincoln LS (upon which the current Mustang is loosely based) but with 2 doors?
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Atomic

Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on August 29, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
I got a great idea for them, build a coupe that's based on the Mustang and make it a little bigger.  A 400hp ecoboost engine would work fine for this car.  As for a flagship I think it does need to offer a V8 if it wants to compete with the S class and 7 series.  Maybe even offer the powerstorke diesel since MB is about to offer an S class diesel again  :rockon:

amen!

Atomic

Quote from: MX793 on August 29, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
You mean like the Lincoln LS (upon which the current Mustang is loosely based) but with 2 doors?

the ls lost its steam and was also the basis for the mid-sized, but cramped problematic jaguar. the lincoln version had promise, but everything seemed to go wrong. i recall our fmc dealer knowing very little about the product and thought it was continental based. did not know whether it was rwd, fwd or awd. marketing was also poor.

FlatBlackCaddy

Ford has a better chance of making lincoln a full fledged global luxury maker then GM does with cadillac.

Don't know exactly what level of certainty that the above phrase is meant to convey, just a observation.

I have more faith in ford's new found brand management than anything GM is doing. In 3-5 years we'll see how this pans out(for both).

the Teuton

I love the MKS; I just don't love a $50k Taurus.

If the Taurus didn't exist, it'd be a much better proposition.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

Mustangfan2003

Quote from: MX793 on August 29, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
You mean like the Lincoln LS (upon which the current Mustang is loosely based) but with 2 doors?

Yeah pretty much.  I also agree that the LS had some potential but it was too small inside and Ford never kept the car up to date with the rest of the crowd.

Mustangfan2003

Saw one of these babies for sale on my way to work except it was red



If I didn't already have the Benz I'd consider it if the price was right