Well Chevy, looks like someone beat you to your revolution

Started by Mustangfan2003, February 05, 2011, 12:24:48 AM

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Laconian

#1
February 05, 2011, 12:40:28 AM
37 highway? What the hell was up with the EPA ratings at that time?
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ifcar

#2
February 05, 2011, 08:44:33 AM
It was probably the upper range of the highway estimate, not the main number. Fueleconomy.gov doesn't list an '84 Caravan that topped 30 mpg even under the old methodology.

Madman

#3
February 05, 2011, 09:37:45 AM
Indeed it was so revolutionary, the 1984 Plymouth Voyager was billed as the "Magic Wagon" since the term "Minivan" didn't yet exist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joE9juKuWSY&feature=related

Damn, I'd forgot how annoying Doug Henning was!
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Submariner

#4
February 05, 2011, 11:07:20 AM
Quote from: Madman on February 05, 2011, 09:37:45 AM
Indeed it was so revolutionary, the 1984 Plymouth Voyager was billed as the "Magic Wagon" since the term "Minivan" didn't yet exist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joE9juKuWSY&feature=related

Damn, I'd forgot how annoying Doug Henning was!

I want to invent a time machine just so I can go back and slap him in the face. 
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Mustangfan2003

#5
February 05, 2011, 01:46:58 PM
I think I'll call these magic wagons now. 

AutobahnSHO

#6
February 07, 2011, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 05, 2011, 01:46:58 PM
I think I'll call these magic wagons now. 

They really are magic. I moved my entire house in a 1992 variety, and it was good on the Autobahn for much more than the 100mph speedo. :lol:
Will

Madman

#7
February 07, 2011, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 05, 2011, 01:46:58 PM
I think I'll call these magic wagons now. 


I've never been fond of the term "minivan".  First of all, today's minivans are hardly "mini".  The British term "People Carrier" is also inadequate since these vehicles carry much more than just people.  Besides, aren't all cars technically "people carriers" in one form or another?  MPV (Multi-Purpose Vehicle) is also a flawed term since this can be used to describe a variety of different types of vehicles.

Personally, I prefer the French term for what we call minivans: "Monospace" (One Space).  After all, a minivan is essentially one big space which can be configured to carry endless combinations of people and cargo.  Yeah, that's what we should call them.  All hail "Les Monospaces!"
Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~ Isaac Asimov

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

ifcar

#8
February 07, 2011, 09:25:18 PM
"First of all, today's minivans are hardly 'mini'."

They are compared to full-size vans, which is what the term was originally coined to distinguish them from.
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