A New Kind of Cadillac For A New Kind of Cadillac Owner

[cawimmer430]

 



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[ifcar]

Is that Borat?

[Colonel Cadillac]

My strategic management teacher has brought up a couple of times how Cadillac fucked up big with the Cim.

[cawimmer430]

Is that Borat?

Nice observation! 

[cawimmer430]

My strategic management teacher has brought up a couple of times how Cadillac fucked up big with the Cim.

I'm just wondering why the Cimarron always gets the hate and nobody ever talks about the Lincoln Versailles!

[2o6]

I'm just wondering why the Cimarron always gets the hate and nobody ever talks about the Lincoln Versailles!

The Versailles at least had some air of luxury.


The Cimmeron was based upon the craptacular Cavalier, and aside from some trim, there is nothing differing it from that and the Cavalier.

[Colonel Cadillac]

I'm just wondering why the Cimarron always gets the hate and nobody ever talks about the Lincoln Versailles!

Good point. Cadillac sold more than 2.5x more Cimarron's than Lincoln sold Versailes' too.

[2o6]

Good point. Cadillac sold more than 2.5x more Cimarron's than Lincoln sold Versailes' too.

The Versailles also competed with the Seville.

[Laconian]

Cadillac was a better brand than Lincoln at the time, so IMO their fall from grace was more dramatic.

[MrH]

I dated a girl with a very similar name.  I never had the heart to tell her that I totally judged her, simply because that car was so god awful.

[cawimmer430]

How common a sight are the Cimarron and Versailles in the USA these days? I imagine they're extremely rare. 

[cawimmer430]

I dated a girl with a very similar name.  I never had the heart to tell her that I totally judged her, simply because that car was so god awful.

[2o6]

How common a sight are the Cimarron and Versailles in the USA these days? I imagine they're extremely rare. 

I go to school with someone who had an '84 Cimmeron.


Versailles is almost unseen and totally rare. Cimmeron is rare too, but you can still find one. In fact, the whole 1st Gen GM J-body is pretty hard to come across.

[cawimmer430]

In fact, the whole 1st Gen GM J-body is pretty hard to come across.

What a great testimony to their quality.   

[Mustangfan2003]

This car is very nice in glorious nation of Kazakhstan

[Colin]

How common a sight are the Cimarron and Versailles in the USA these days? I imagine they're extremely rare. 

I can't recall ever seeing one on the roads in the past few years.

[Tave]

I can't recall ever seeing one on the roads in the past few years.

I thought you were a Brit?

[93JC]

I've seen one, ever. I can't remember the last time I saw a Buick Skyhawk, Oldsmobile Firenza or Pontiac J2000/Sunbird either.

1st gen. Cavaliers are a very rare sight these days. Even second gen. and early third gen. Cavaliers are becoming very rare.

[Mustangfan2003]

Most of those early Cavaliers, Sunturds, and whatnot have rusted away. 

[Madman]

A friend of mine had a Cadillac Cimmaron in the early '90s and I haven't seen one in years  I don't think I've seen a Lincoln Versailles since the 1980s, either.  Both these cars were cynical shams and deserved to fail.  And somehow Toyota manages to get away with this same sort of shameless badge engineering with the Toyota Camry Deluxe, AKA the Lexus ES. 

[ifcar]

A friend of mine had a Cadillac Cimmaron in the early '90s and I haven't seen one in years  I don't think I've seen a Lincoln Versailles since the 1980s, either.  Both these cars were cynical shams and deserved to fail.  And somehow Toyota manages to get away with this same sort of shameless badge engineering with the Toyota Camry Deluxe, AKA the Lexus ES. 

I assume you actually see the difference. There's only been one generation of ES that was at Cimarron level:



Otherwise, interior and exterior designs have been totally distinct between same-market Lexuses and Toyotas. Platform sharing =/ badge engineering.

[the Teuton]

It wasn't a Cadillac Cimarron. It was The Cimarron by Cadillac.

GM never called it a Cadillac outright. Can't imagine why...

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Is this any worse than rebadging a Saturn as a Caddy? 

[2o6]

A friend of mine had a Cadillac Cimmaron in the early '90s and I haven't seen one in years  I don't think I've seen a Lincoln Versailles since the 1980s, either.  Both these cars were cynical shams and deserved to fail.  And somehow Toyota manages to get away with this same sort of shameless badge engineering with the Toyota Camry Deluxe, AKA the Lexus ES. 

That isn't the same, and you know it. Stop trolling.

[Laconian]

I assume you actually see the difference. There's only been one generation of ES that was at Cimarron level:

Heh heh heh, I had a friend in college who had an ES250. He was shocked about the number of similarities when he rode in my Camry. Except he had a CD PLAYER OMG

[Mustangfan2003]

Heh heh heh, I had a friend in college who had an ES250. He was shocked about the number of similarities when he rode in my Camry. Except he had a CD PLAYER OMG

CD player=PIMP

[CJ]

The Versailles wasn't built off of an already mediocre Cavalier.

[Laconian]

CD player=PIMP

It had the 2.5L V6 engine too, which I admit was pretty good at hauling around that corpse of a chassis. I think it was the fastest car in its class at the time.

[the Teuton]

Is this any worse than rebadging a Saturn as a Caddy? 

When was this? Also, Saturns are world class, yo.

[cawimmer430]

I think it was the fastest car in its class at the time.

What class? 

The ES seems to always have been in a class of its own until the recent badge-engineered Opels, eh, Buicks, started kicking its ass.