Alfa's 11, I mean 12, and now 13 years (and counting) of broken promises

Started by Madman, May 06, 2011, 10:56:07 PM

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#180
October 03, 2013, 07:44:57 PM
The weight gain is literally the modernization of cars.

It still sucks, but I wouldn't drive a car w/o A/C or air bags. If I'm gonna throw caution to the wind like that... well, you know what I'd rather have.
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Raza

#181
October 04, 2013, 10:49:48 AM
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If you can read this, you're too close

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Madman

#182
October 04, 2013, 11:27:25 AM
I've just read the article in CAR magazine and, in many ways, the 4C reminds me of my old Fiat X-1/9.
Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~ Isaac Asimov

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

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#183
October 04, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: Raza  on October 04, 2013, 10:49:48 AM
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/290881/alfa_romeo_4c_review_price_and_specs.html

Shame.  Sounds like a great car, if a bit timid.
CF car for the price of a Boxster..... I mean, I wouldn't do it, but it's a hell of a bargain
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Madman

#184
March 26, 2014, 11:54:20 AM
Anyone remember that Alfa Romeo 4C that was supposed to be in American showrooms by the end of 2013?  Well, if you believe Alfa's PR Department (and, at this point, why should you?) the North American spec 4C will debut at the New York Auto Show in April and go on sale in June as a 2015 model.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1091061_4c-to-lead-alfa-romeos-official-u-s-return-at-2014-new-york-auto-show


North American 4Cs will weigh some 200 pounds more than the base European model (blame standard-fit air-con and additional safety gear) and will start at just $54,000.  A carbon fibre monococque chassis for only $54,000?  Now that's impressive!  I can't see how they're making any money on it, though.



In other Alfa news, the Mazda MX-5 based Spider isn't going to happen.  Instead, that car is going to wind up as a belated replacement for the Fiat Barchetta.  A convertible 4C is also in the works, but what about after that?  Fiat boss Sergio Marchionne is said to be unveiling another new five-year-plan for Alfa (the fourth in nine years, I might add) in April or May where is has been rumoured the existing MiTo and Giulietta will be phased out and not replaced.  The new plan calls for Alfa to concentrate on larger cars (the long-overdue Giulia sedan and a yet-to-be-named BMW 5 Series-sized "Flagship Sedan" which may be called Alfetta) and a crossover-style SUV.  It is said these larger cars will find more broad appeal in the US and China, two markets where Alfa Romeo is eager to expand.

As for when any of these will actually go on sale is anybody's guess.  In the meantime, the 4C will be the only way to get your Alfa fix.  Considering Alfa only has the capacity to build a limited number of carbon fibre tubs and the car will only be available through Ferrari/Maserati dealers (plus a handful of "specially selected" Fiat dealers), don't expect to see very many of them.  This is hardly the "Big Splash" return that many Alfa Romeo enthusiasts were hoping for, but I guess it's better than nothing.
Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~ Isaac Asimov

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

MexicoCityM3

#185
March 26, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
We get the Mito and Giulietta today and the 4C is confirmed already: http://www.alfaromeo.mx/mx/#/home

I'd love a 4C.
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Madman

#186
April 07, 2015, 07:10:44 AM
Thread revival time.

An Alfa Romeo sedan is supposedly due in US showrooms by 2016, and a crossover in 2017.  Both are based on the RWD/AWD "Giorgio" platform.  Expect turbocharged four and six cylinder engines.  Looks like this is FINALLY going to happen.

Meanwhile, I have yet to see a 4C anywhere.  The only other US-market car I can think of which I've never actually seen is the Mitsubishi i-MiEV.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/alfa-romeos-us-lineup-to-add-a-sedan-suv-by-2017-88082.html
Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~ Isaac Asimov

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

Madman

#187
April 07, 2015, 07:37:09 AM
Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~ Isaac Asimov

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

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#188
April 07, 2015, 07:57:08 AM
Is Alfa Romeo Italian for "wolf tickets"?
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Madman

#189
November 05, 2015, 08:26:27 PM
Oh, what a surprise!  Or not.

Looks like the Giulia sedan won't arrive in 2016 after all.  We in North America will have to wait until at least 2017 for the sedan and 2018 for the crossover.

http://jalopnik.com/surprise-alfa-romeo-giulia-sedan-and-new-suv-delayed-1740653838


In other news, I still haven't seen a 4C anywhere.  Until I do, I refuse to believe it actually exists.
Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~ Isaac Asimov

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis
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