UPDATE: 2-0 on tickets

[GoCougs]

The officer pulled you over after spotting you in the HOV lane and it was most likely recorded. What would be better proof than that?

If they can't prove that, I don't trust them to make any judgement on murder cases.

LOL - then where is this supposed recording? (He was on a bike FWIW.) For the 5th time, you guys should rue the day the surveillance state gets to that point...

[dazzleman]

LOL - then where is this supposed recording? (He was on a bike FWIW.) For the 5th time, you guys should rue the day the surveillance state gets to that point...

We appreciate the fact that you've struck a blow for freedom.....

[GoCougs]

Cougs, you're just not being honest here.  You broke the law many times, got busted, were guilty as hell, but manipulated a weak and corrupt system (at a very high cost) to drop the charge.

Now you're trying to make it into some type of moral crusade.  It isn't.  You tried to weasel and buy your way out of a ticket and you succeeded, at a high cost.  But that doesn't make you some type of freedom fighter.

I'm being very honest, brutally honest. The system is there for both sides to use, and this time, I won; it is neither weak nor corrupt.

I'm not on any sort of moral crusade - I'm in it for myself. However, I will say, if more did what I did, you'd probably see a shift of the LE from non-material traffic enforcement.

[dazzleman]

I'm being very honest, brutally honest. The system is there for both sides to use, and this time, I won.

I'm not on any sort of moral crusade - I'm in it for myself. However, I will say, if more did what I did, you'd probably see a shift of the LE from non-material traffic enforcement.

I don't totally disagree with you.  I just find the whole thing kind of humorous.  I look forward to hearing about the next ticket that you have on deck.  I wish you were going to appear in court.  That makes for an even better story.

[hotrodalex]

LOL - then where is this supposed recording? (He was on a bike FWIW.) For the 5th time, you guys should rue the day the surveillance state gets to that point...

It already is to that point, with police dash cameras. And I don't see anything wrong with that.

[SVT666]

I don't totally disagree with you.  I just find the whole thing kind of humorous.  I look forward to hearing about the next ticket that you have on deck.  I wish you were going to appear in court.  That makes for an even better story.

If he had to appear in court, the next time we would hear from him is in 7 days.

[GoCougs]

Just got notice today from HR that from here forward all offers will be contingent on a number of things (drug test, criminal check) including a DMV check of one's driving record. They call this the "onboarding process." I'm really tempted to quip about WTF does a driving record have to do with anything but so far I have resisted, and I'm 60% confident I can maintain that. Oh, so yeah, protecting one's driving record ain't just nothin.'

[dazzleman]

Just got notice today from HR that from here forward all offers will be contingent on a number of things (drug test, criminal check) including a DMV check of one's driving record. They call this the "onboarding process." I'm really tempted to quip about WTF does a driving record have to do with anything but so far I have resisted, and I'm 60% confident I can maintain that. Oh, so yeah, protecting one's driving record ain't just nothin.'

They're probably looking for things like DUI.

[GoCougs]

They're probably looking for things like DUI.

That would come up in the criminal check (in my state DUI is a crime not a traffic infraction). They specifically delineated between criminal record and DMV record. AFAIK no one at the company has a company-issued car, but could be wrong. I just fired off that question, plus others (do they also do a credit check).

[Byteme]

They're probably looking for things like DUI.

I'd guess that and a general trend of reckless behaviour and/or disregard for rules and regulations. 

[GoCougs]

Got my answers back from HR. Turns out they DO issue cars to the field sales reps, and the DMV check would ONLY apply to those positions.

So BFF MiataJohn, you'll just have to suffer my continued winning in buying my way out of the punishment for "reckless behavior and/or disregard for rules and regulations."

[dazzleman]

Got my answers back from HR. Turns out they DO issue cars to the field sales reps, and the DMV check would ONLY apply to those positions.

So BFF MiataJohn, you'll just have to suffer my continued winning in buying my way out of the punishment for "reckless behavior and/or disregard for rules and regulations."

MiataJohn has gotten his share of tickets over the years.

When is the court date for your next ticket?

[Tave]

Got my answers back from HR. Turns out they DO issue cars to the field sales reps, and the DMV check would ONLY apply to those positions.

So BFF MiataJohn, you'll just have to suffer my continued winning in buying my way out of the punishment for "reckless behavior and/or disregard for rules and regulations."

So since the background check doesn't apply to you, you'll continue to buy your way out of tickets to avoid the background check...that doesn't apply to you?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5wryDdEI0

[GoCougs]

2/8. Can't wait!

[GoCougs]

So since the background check doesn't apply to you, you'll continue to buy your way out of tickets to avoid the background check...that doesn't apply to you?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5wryDdEI0

Tave, what's going on with your Internetry? You've been trying for these wins lately and it's not gone well. 

Background check is a criminal check. Traffic citations are not a criminal. Background check happens whether there is "background" to be discovered or not. Ergo, "loss."

[Tave]

Tave, what's going on with your Internetry? You've been trying for these wins lately and it's not gone well. 

Background check is a criminal check. Traffic citations are not a criminal. Background check happens whether there is "background" to be discovered or not. Ergo, "loss."

So since the DMV check doesn't apply to you, you'll continue to buy your way out of tickets to avoid the DMV check...that doesn't apply to you?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5wryDdEI0

[dazzleman]

2/8. Can't wait!

It's not as if the stakes are very high.  You can have some fun with it.

[dazzleman]

So since the DMV check doesn't apply to you, you'll continue to buy your way out of tickets to avoid the DMV check...that doesn't apply to you?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5wryDdEI0

$500 in legal fees for a $100 ticket -- sounds like a win to me....

[Byteme]

MiataJohn has gotten his share of tickets over the years.

But none for speeding for quite a while.  It all boils down to knowing when you can and can't get away with it. 

[GoCougs]

$500 in legal fees for a $100 ticket -- sounds like a win to me....

That's $850 for this one - over on the other side of the state...

[GoCougs]

So since the DMV check doesn't apply to you, you'll continue to buy your way out of tickets to avoid the DMV check...that doesn't apply to you?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5wryDdEI0

Duh, of course l - lots of other entities check DMV records, such as a judge during a citation hearing or a jury should I ever find myself on the receiving end of a civil suit owing to a traffic accident.

[Tave]

Generally speaking evidence of a prior bad act is not admissible to prove that a person acted in conformity with that act. There are some exceptions to that rule, but if your lawyer is doing his job, evidence of your driving record shouldn't get to the jury.

My guess is the judge would have a record of your previous dismissals, but maybe not.

[GoCougs]

Generally speaking evidence of a prior bad act is not admissible to prove that a person acted in conformity with that act. There are some exceptions to that rule, but if your lawyer is doing his job, evidence of your driving record shouldn't get to the jury.

Civil trial.

[dazzleman]

But none for speeding for quite a while.  It all boils down to knowing when you can and can't get away with it. 

I have the same problem.  We need to step up our game.

[dazzleman]

That's $850 for this one - over on the other side of the state...

Even better.

I hope you're continuing to speed.

[GoCougs]

Even better.

I hope you're continuing to speed.

Not so much anymore. Since the first of the year my commute is now on a two-lane country road whereby I mostly get stuck behind a POS bus or some other leviathan that refuses to do the speed limit.

[Tave]

Civil trial.

I know. The Rules of Evidence apply to both criminal and civil trials.

[dazzleman]

2/8. Can't wait!

What happened?

[Rupert]

Ha, he probably lost.

[bing_oh]

Ha, he probably lost.

That's what I was thinking. He would have been back on here bragging about beating the system again as soon as he got home from court if he had won. I'm thinking he got the fine + court costs + the price of his expensive lawyer.