Give me your thoughts on a Porsche 944S

Started by Byteme, January 23, 2012, 11:31:06 AM

GoCougs

Quote from: 68_427 on January 23, 2012, 06:40:42 PM


with the 327/365hp engine

Without a doubt the C2 is the best bet mentioned in this thread (hardtop only IMO). Thing is even a decent original is going to be WAY more expensive than any of the cars mentioned here or elsewhere in his OMG WHAT ABOUT THIS GUYS threads. A decent original 327/365 would nuke his budget.

I however would advise against a collector/numbers matching car. Perfect for his budget is a resto mod that more or less keeps the exterior styling (sans side pipes) but is updated with a modern power plant (a stock 327/365 is a very difficult motor to own and drive).

Googling shows there are numerous such examples; such as LS2 swaps + AT so even MiataJohn can actually drive it.

SVT666

Quote from: Onslaught on January 23, 2012, 04:02:58 PM
Oh you can. But it cost you an arm and a leg. And then I'll be mad at you for having one.
Sounds like a good reason to get one.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: GoCougs on January 23, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
Googling shows there are numerous such examples; such as LS2 swaps + AT so even MiataJohn can actually drive it.
Ouch.

:lol:

I still think Esprit was the best.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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SVT666


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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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CJ


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Cookie Monster

RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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cawimmer430

You people need to stop suggesting UNRELIABLE AND OVERPRICED CRAP to John.  :nono:


Here are my suggestions!  :ohyeah:






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GoCougs

Quote from: thecarnut on January 23, 2012, 07:16:36 PM
Ouch.

:lol:

I still think Esprit was the best.

I couldn't resist - he and I like sparring as all of the 'SPIN knows - all in good fun.

I'd so take a tasteful resto mod C2 over an Esprit though...

CJ

Quote from: thecarnut on January 23, 2012, 07:29:19 PM
Because it's not a Volvo?


Look at the cars he's been looking at and then compare it to that.  Terrible idea.  Plus, what happens when it inevitably rains when they're out in the Viper?  Drenched. 

CALL_911

Quote from: CJ on January 23, 2012, 07:36:37 PM

Look at the cars he's been looking at and then compare it to that.  Terrible idea.  Plus, what happens when it inevitably rains when they're out in the Viper?  Drenched. 

No, you're an idiot. The Viper is an awesome idea. Shut up and go back to discussing airbags and crash dummies at your stupid Volvo forum.


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Onslaught

I don't know, he's had a Jag and Miata. Most people who like cars like that I don't see being in a Viper. Could be wrong however.

Raza

Quote from: Onslaught on January 23, 2012, 04:02:58 PM
Oh you can. But it cost you an arm and a leg. And then I'll be mad at you for having one.

Sounds like a win-win to me.  Maybe I should get one to replace the Jetta.   :devil:
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cawimmer430

Well since he wants to experience Kraut...  :ohyeah:


Pagoda 230/250/280SL





500K Spezial Roadster - will only set you back about $ 5 million.  :ohyeah:





Or how about a rare 1928 Mercedes SSK Trossi Roadster?  :praise:



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Raza

Pagoda SL!  Wimmer, you finally came through with a good suggestion!
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

cawimmer430

Quote from: Raza  on January 23, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
Pagoda SL!  Wimmer, you finally came through with a good suggestion!

They're great cars to. I have a bunch of articles on them and they all state the same thing:

- Reliable
- Modern to drive
- Abundance of spare parts (not to expensive either)
- Lots of 'em on the market
- Comfortable

Great cars.  :praise:
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 23, 2012, 07:56:41 PM
They're great cars to. I have a bunch of articles on them and they all state the same thing:

- Reliable
- Modern to drive
- Abundance of spare parts (not to expensive either)
- Lots of 'em on the market
- Comfortable

Great cars.  :praise:

All your articles and full of schiesse.
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Rupert

Well, I obviously think the 944 is an awesome car. :lol:

But if I was looking for what I think John is looking for, I would be more drawn to the Dino or Esprit (or C2 'Vette...).
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Rupert

Quote from: SVT32V on January 23, 2012, 03:18:56 PM
I thought they were all 3 liters, that isn't that small although it was a 4 cyl.

I think a turbo version would be pretty awesome.


If this porsche was an option I would go with a 928, to me, one of the sweetest sounding V8s of all time.


Early cars were 2.5 L, S was 2.7 L, S2 was 3.0 L.

928 GTS might be cool.
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Rupert

Quote from: sportyaccordy on January 23, 2012, 06:19:37 PM
Naw I think its more like 2 924s mushed together. With the # of problems squared

944s mushed together with problems squared. The 944 engine is basically half the 928 V8.
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Rupert

Quote from: GoCougs on January 23, 2012, 12:53:09 PM
I can't imagine the driving experience is worth the maintenance and repair costs (yes, I've known a few that have owned them). It's interesting I guess but ultimately is every bit the VW it was supposed to be (or at least in its first incarnation as the 924).

944 is not really the same car as the 924. 944 has a wider track, Porsche suspension, and Porsche-only Porsche-designed Porsche-built engine. The 924 had a half VW engine.
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Rupert

Quote from: Rockraven on January 23, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
944's are so cheap though. Anyone can get one in decent shape, just so they can say they drive a Porsche. It's an 80's tech, 7.5 second car that has nothing more than the name going for it.

Pardon?
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Byteme

Random thoughts on the above posts.

240-260-280-300Z's do nothing for me.  

Acura or Honda (same thing really) does nothing for me.  

63-67 Corvette.  Nice but you can't drive one and park it on the street without worrying about it being taken.

XJS V12?  The early 90's AJ6 models were much better cars.  XJS's just aren't that attractive to me.  

Cars from the 30's I really find attractive.

I like the looks of the pagoda Mercedes, I had a friend who owned a 250.  It wasn't that much fun to drive, IMO.

The red Mustang that was posted is great, but it would have to be a convertible.


Cars I'd consider (a list open to changes):

Lotus Europa
Lotus Esprit
64-67 Mustang
65-67 Corvair convertible
Fiat Dino Coupe or Spider
Porsche 944S
66-67 Ford Fairlane convertible
Ferrari Mondial
Something interesting from the 30's
Bricklin SV1
Maserti Merak
Jaguar Series II Roadster, a driver; no surprises, I know these cars inside and out.  Not a show car; been there, done that, have the trophy wall as proof.


On the fringes:
68-69 AMC Javelin. Would be better if they had made a convertible version.
65-66 Pontiac 2+2 convertible.  Replace the engine transmission with a modern wrecker yard GM V8 and transmission and modern engine management system
Factory 5 Cobra look alike.  Looks like fun but I might be setting myself up for disappointment.


A thought, but probably would be the perpetually uncompleted project:
72-73 Ford Pinto hatchback.  Pull the drivetrain.  Turn the engine bay into a trunk and fuel tank area.  Gut the car from behind the front seats back.  stiffen what's left.  Drop in a Ford front wheel drive V6 as a mid engine.  Probably never work but it would be a fun experiment.


SVT32V

Quote from: Rupert on January 23, 2012, 08:54:20 PM
Early cars were 2.5 L, S was 2.7 L, S2 was 3.0 L.

928 GTS might be cool.

Simply beautiful, and I can't remember the last time I saw one on the road.

cawimmer430

Quote from: MiataJohn on January 24, 2012, 07:00:56 AM
Lotus Europa

Yes!


Quote from: MiataJohn on January 24, 2012, 07:00:56 AMFiat Dino Coupe or Spider

Good choice. Very elegant and beautiful cars.  :rockon:

This could be you!  :lol:






Quote from: MiataJohn on January 24, 2012, 07:00:56 AMMaserti Merak

One of my clients has one with an Italian market engine cc tax 2.0 V6 special. Hopefully we'll do a shoot this summer. I'm not crazy about the design, but it's definitely a special car.
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mzziaz

Personally, I might have choose a 928 for my next funmobile.

The design is really timeless and still looks modern today. The fact that it is 9the 11s obscure brother is a bonus to me.

On Johns list: the Merak is really beautiful and is a bit underapreciated, imo.
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Byteme

Quote from: GoCougs on January 23, 2012, 07:33:49 PM
I couldn't resist - he and I like sparring as all of the 'SPIN knows - all in good fun. I'd so take a tasteful resto mod C2 over an Esprit though...

You'd think that and you'd be wrong.  Truth be known, I wouldn't piss in your mouth if your guts were on fire. 

Byteme

Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 24, 2012, 08:40:40 AM
Yes!


Good choice. Very elegant and beautiful cars.  :rockon:

This could be you!  :lol:






One of my clients has one with an Italian market engine cc tax 2.0 V6 special. Hopefully we'll do a shoot this summer. I'm not crazy about the design, but it's definitely a special car.

I think I saw that same picture in the recent Hemmings Sports and Exotic car mag.


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This is likely something way out in left field, but nothing like it has been mentioned yet...





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