2013 Nissan Sylphy (Will likely be new Sentra)

[2o6]

[mzziaz]

Sounds and looks like syphilis

[2o6]

Sounds and looks like syphilis

All Nissans look bad.

[Payman]

If a venerial disease can be translated into car design, this would be it.

[ifcar]

Wasn't the point of making the Versa as boring as possible to make room for a sportier, sleeker Sentra? The overlap continues.

[Payman]

All Nissans look bad.

Japan has really lost its way in car design.

[2o6]

Wasn't the point of making the Versa as boring as possible to make room for a sportier, sleeker Sentra? The overlap continues.

How is this overlap? Although the Versa still has good legroom, it's still smaller, narrower, cheaper and physically smaller than this Sylphy. It's no more different than the difference between my Yaris sedan and the Corolla (which are near idendical in a lot of measurements)

[2o6]

Japan has really lost its way in car design.

Suprisingly, Toyota seems to be coming back. They're still kind of bland, but I actually can't pick out any model that I actually dislike.

[Vinsanity]

Guys, it doesn't look that bad. It's bland, but not ugly. It looks like a pint-size version of the new Altima, which shouldn't be surprising, since the last/current one looks like a pint-size version of the old Maxima. And at least this looks much better than that one.

[FoMoJo]

Horrible, horrible.  Not one pleasant line.  The front fender bulges are atrocious along with the bulging hip-line.  Ghastly.

Why does the hip-line from the rear view look so different from the hip-line from the front view ?

[2o6]

Guys, it doesn't look that bad. It's bland, but not ugly. It looks like a pint-size version of the new Altima, which shouldn't be surprising, since the last/current one looks like a pint-size version of the old Maxima. And at least this looks much better than that one.

Neither of those models look good. The new Altima and new Maxima are both hideous.

[ifcar]

How is this overlap? Although the Versa still has good legroom, it's still smaller, narrower, cheaper and physically smaller than this Sylphy. It's no more different than the difference between my Yaris sedan and the Corolla (which are near idendical in a lot of measurements)

And there's a reason Toyota dropped the Yaris sedan...

The Versa and Sentra won't be identical, just like they're not identical now, but they're both going to be in the roomy but dull section of the economy car class. There was room for Nissan to do something different with the Sentra, but it doesn't appear to be doing that.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Is this one of those Chinese imitations?

[Payman]

Neither of those models look good. The new Altima and new Maxima are both hideous.

I'm afraid I agree.

[2o6]

And there's a reason Toyota dropped the Yaris sedan...

The Versa and Sentra won't be identical, just like they're not identical now, but they're both going to be in the roomy but dull section of the economy car class. There was room for Nissan to do something different with the Sentra, but it doesn't appear to be doing that.

One is bigger and more powerful. One is smaller and less powerful. It doesn't seem to be any different than the Fiesta and Focus relationship.

[Payman]

Suprisingly, Toyota seems to be coming back. They're still kind of bland, but I actually can't pick out any model that I actually dislike.

Disagree. The only Toyotas I like for design are the trucks (not SUVs) and the FR-S (but like the BRZ better).

[2o6]

Disagree. The only Toyotas I like for design are the trucks (not SUVs) and the FR-S (but like the BRZ better).

I have no strong feelings either way towards any of their models.

[Raza]

Interesting.  I think this is at least better looking than the frumpy outgoing model.

[Payman]

I have no strong feelings either way towards any of their models.

And that's the letdown of current Japanese design. Mostly inoffensive, but so are most kitchen appliances.

[2o6]

And that's the letdown of current Japanese design. Mostly inoffensive, but so are most kitchen appliances.

Japanese design has never been exciting.

[Vinsanity]

Japanese design has never been exciting.

Not quite true. The early 90's was a golden era/coming of age period for Japanese design. Their cars set the tone of progress for the rest of the industry for the remainder of the decade. The same is true to a lesser degree for a handful of Japanese cars of the early 2000's.

[68_427]

It's better than the hideous Elantra.

[2o6]

Not quite true. The early 90's was a golden era/coming of age period for Japanese design. Their cars set the tone of progress for the rest of the industry for the remainder of the decade. The same is true to a lesser degree for a handful of Japanese cars of the early 2000's.

Not in the slightest. Most, if not all mildly interesting design came from Europe.


Most of their cars were well-proportioned, but pretty bland boxes.

[Payman]

Japanese design has never been exciting.

Whoa, what? I'll make a short list off the top of my head...

1992 Lexus SC
1993 Mazda RX-7
1990 Acura NSX
1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th generation Honda Preludes
Toyota 2000GT
Datsun 240Z
1st gen Mazda RX-7
Honda S2000
1st gen Toyota Celica
1990's Nissan Maxima
Mazda Miata
Mitsu 3000GT
Mitsu Starion/Dodge Conquest
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[2o6]

Whoa, what? I'll make a short list off the top of my head...

1992 Lexus SC
1993 Mazda RX-7
1990 Acura NSX
1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th generation Honda Preludes
Toyota 2000GT
Datsun 240Z
1st gen Mazda RX-7
Honda S2000
1st gen Toyota Celica
1990's Nissan Maxima
Mazda Miata
Mitsu 3000GT
Mitsu Starion/Dodge Conquest
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Sometimes, I wonder if you guys get performance and styling intermixed, because some of these I think aren't particularly exciting to look at in comparison to their European competition.

They look pretty good, but for the most part their other models are all pretty bland.

[Payman]

Sometimes, I wonder if you guys get performance and styling intermixed, because some of these I think aren't particularly exciting to look at in comparison to their European competition.

They look pretty good, but for the most part their other models are all pretty bland.

No, YOU are getting it intermixed. I thought we were talking about styling here.

[ifcar]

One is bigger and more powerful. One is smaller and less powerful. It doesn't seem to be any different than the Fiesta and Focus relationship.

Another case where there was room to make the cars more different.

In this case, Nissan keeps trying to bill itself as a sporty brand, but it hasn't offered a legitimate affordable sporty vehicle in years. The Sentra was an opportunity to give some sort of style, and Nissan isn't doing it.

[2o6]

No, YOU are getting it intermixed. I thought we were talking about styling here.

I'm not going to lie, they have had their gems, but their entire market tends to be more restrained and bland compared to Europe or even the US. I still think the 2006+ "Cheese Wedge Civic" looks awesome. I absolutely love the EU hatchback (and it was styled specifically for them, which market tends to gravitate towards a stylish and unique model, whereas in the US we view our cars as appliances).



An illustration I can think of is maybe the MK1 Focus. Stylistically, it blew our minds, looking so different from the average Corolla and Civic. In Europe, it wasn't that big of a deal; (but it seems like the car's popularity came from other merits of the car).

[2o6]

Another case where there was room to make the cars more different.

In this case, Nissan keeps trying to bill itself as a sporty brand, but it hasn't offered a legitimate affordable sporty vehicle in years. The Sentra was an opportunity to give some sort of style, and Nissan isn't doing it.

It seems like Nissan is losing the sporty premise, though.

[cawimmer430]

Sounds and looks like syphilis

My thoughts exactly.

And Nissan Syphilis would still sound better than this weirdo name. At least syphilis is an actual word that people can relate to!