"Truly Overrated"

Started by 2o6, May 06, 2012, 10:02:38 PM

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Vinsanity

#120
May 09, 2012, 08:29:45 PM
Quote from: Madman on May 09, 2012, 05:28:39 PM

You do realise that your CTS would have also been called Catera had Cadillac not decided to switch to three-letter model designations, right?  I'm sure you are also aware CTS originally stood for "Catera Touring Sedan"?


I can agree that the Catera was a good idea. I have to admit I thought it was an interesting idea when they first came out. The execution? Yech.

I have to think that if it weren't for the Lincoln LS, Cadillac wouldn't have been convinced that Detroit could build a decent sport-luxury sedan that people would actually want to buy. The Catera, on its own, wasn't a very convincing case

Raza

#121
May 09, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: Vinsanity on May 09, 2012, 08:29:45 PM
I can agree that the Catera was a good idea. I have to admit I thought it was an interesting idea when they first came out. The execution? Yech.

I have to think that if it weren't for the Lincoln LS, Cadillac wouldn't have been convinced that Detroit could build a decent sport-luxury sedan that people would actually want to buy. The Catera, on its own, wasn't a very convincing case

Dude...it zigged. 
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68_427

#122
May 09, 2012, 08:41:45 PM
There's a new si sedan inn red in my town and I double take every time.
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Vinsanity

#123
May 09, 2012, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: Raza  on May 09, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
Dude...it zigged. 

Oh. Well nvm then!

280Z Turbo

#124
May 09, 2012, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on May 09, 2012, 07:05:57 PM
I dunno, the G6 is actually fairly pretty in person.

It reeks of GMness.

TurboDan

#125
May 11, 2012, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: Raza  on May 09, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
Dude...it zigged. 

LOL. I haven't thought of that slogan in years. Awful!

Laconian

#126
May 11, 2012, 06:23:07 PM
Ad campaign: "zigging", Cindy Crawford, and cartoon ducks!

IT'LL SELL MILLIONS
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Madman

#127
May 11, 2012, 06:32:14 PM
Quote from: Laconian on May 11, 2012, 06:23:07 PM
Ad campaign: "zigging", Cindy Crawford, and cartoon ducks!

IT'LL SELL MILLIONS


:lol:

Don't forget the Opel/Vauxhall Omega (AKA Cadillac Catera) also spawned the Holden Commodore VX and, in coupe form, the Holden Monaro which came to America as the Pontiac GTO.  Funny how I never see anyone ripping on the GTO, even though it's basically a two-door Catera with a Corvette engine.
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2o6

#128
May 11, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
Everyone rips on the GTO. It looks like a Cavalier.

Madman

#129
May 11, 2012, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on May 11, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
Everyone rips on the GTO. It looks like a Cavalier.


Yeah, the GTO is nowhere near as cool as a Toyota Yaris sedan!  :rolleyes:



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"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~ Isaac Asimov

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

2o6

#130
May 11, 2012, 06:36:13 PM
No, the GTO really does look like a Cavalier. If I'm not really paying attention, I get them confused.

hounddog

#131
May 11, 2012, 06:39:59 PM
Pretty much all Cadillacs, all Inifinities and the Prius.

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Gotta-Qik-C7

#132
May 11, 2012, 09:19:54 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on May 11, 2012, 06:36:13 PM
No, the GTO really does look like a Cavalier. If I'm not really paying attention, I get them confused.
:confused: I've NEVER confused a GTO with a Cavalier. I see the resemblance but theres no way in hell I could confuse the two! Thats like confusing a Cayman with a Panamera!
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Payman

#133
May 11, 2012, 10:48:14 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on May 11, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
Everyone rips on the GTO. It looks like a Cavalier.

Many people this, a lot of guys that, everyone blah blah blah. I swear all these voices are in your head.

SVT666

#134
May 11, 2012, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: hounddog on May 11, 2012, 06:39:59 PM
Pretty much all Cadillacs, all Inifinities and the Prius.


The G37 isn't overrated and neither is the Prius.  Everything else I agree with.

On another note, could you shorten your signature please?  It's longer than most posts.

Rupert

#135
May 11, 2012, 11:03:06 PM
Dude, there are tons of longer sigs than hd's, including, like, your's.

Unless he has images that I've got blocked...
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#136
May 11, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: Madman on May 11, 2012, 06:32:14 PM

:lol:

Don't forget the Opel/Vauxhall Omega (AKA Cadillac Catera) also spawned the Holden Commodore VX and, in coupe form, the Holden Monaro which came to America as the Pontiac GTO.  Funny how I never see anyone ripping on the GTO, even though it's basically a two-door Catera with a Corvette engine.


Yeah, funny thing, but that last point? The Corvette engine? Reeaallly important. :ohyeah:
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SVT666

#137
May 11, 2012, 11:05:56 PM
Quote from: Rupert on May 11, 2012, 11:03:06 PM
Dude, there are tons of longer sigs than hd's, including, like, your's.

Unless he has images that I've got blocked...
No it's not.  I have a picture and a single quote.  He has an entire book.

Rupert

#138
May 11, 2012, 11:08:08 PM
Um, yes, your sig is absolutely longer than his. And you have two quotes.
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SVT666

#139
May 11, 2012, 11:09:38 PM
I have one now.  But it's not the physical length, it's the sheer number of words.

Rupert

#140
May 11, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Now they're the same length.

You don't have to read all those words in every post, you know.
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S204STi

#141
May 11, 2012, 11:17:38 PM
Quote from: Rockraven on May 11, 2012, 10:48:14 PM
Many people this, a lot of guys that, everyone blah blah blah. I swear all these voices are in your head.

:like:

S204STi

#142
May 11, 2012, 11:18:54 PM
Quote from: Rupert on May 11, 2012, 11:08:08 PM
Um, yes, your sig is absolutely longer than his. And you have two quotes.

Maybe on your screen.  On mine, 2o6's is like a page from Don Quixote compared with Craig's.

SVT666

#143
May 11, 2012, 11:25:56 PM
Hounddog's

S204STi

#144
May 11, 2012, 11:26:51 PM
Good call.

hounddog

#145
May 11, 2012, 11:45:40 PM
Quote from: Rupert on May 11, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Now they're the same length.

You don't have to read all those words in every post, you know.
:hesaid:

Not changing it until I feel like it.  :huh:

It is what it is until it is no longer.
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hounddog

#146
May 11, 2012, 11:48:29 PM
Quote from: SVT666 on May 11, 2012, 11:09:38 PM
I have one now.  But it's not the physical length, it's the sheer number of words.
We all know words bother you, you have demonstrated that on numerous occasions.

However, nothing I have quoted is more then two sentences.

Now, if you are talking about your phone being buggared up by it then I could possibly be pursuaded to make a cut or two. 
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.  If we falter and lose our freedoms it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
~Abraham Lincoln

"Freedom and not servitude is the cure of anarchy; as religion, and not atheism, is the true remedy of superstition."
~Edmund Burke

Fighting the good fight, one beer at a time.

Rupert

#147
May 11, 2012, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: S204STi on May 11, 2012, 11:18:54 PM
Maybe on your screen.  On mine, 2o6's is like a page from Don Quixote compared with Craig's.

Impossible. My screen is the God screen, and all other screens were created in its image.
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S204STi

#148
May 12, 2012, 12:01:42 AM
Ah.  Well then.

TurboDan

#149
May 12, 2012, 12:14:39 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on May 11, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
Everyone rips on the GTO. It looks like a Cavalier.

WTF? I've never heard anyone rip on the GTO. And I've never seen anyone confuse it with a Cavalier.
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