Veloster turbo? Yes, please.

Started by S204STi, June 06, 2012, 10:38:29 PM

Soup DeVille

Quote from: MX793 on June 09, 2012, 04:14:01 PM
No, including rollout reduces the times.  Rollout is the short distance between where the car is stopped and the timing lights on the drag strip.  Without rollout, as IL tests, is a true "dead dig".  They start timing the moment the car starts moving.  With rollout, the cars have a little bit of motion before they trip the timing lights (meaning it's not a "true" 0-60, it's more like 3-60).  Excluding rollout adds ~ .3s to a 0-60 time.

Oh, it's less than that I'd bet. 0.3s would be a very long roll out time.

Rollout isn't the eight inches it takes to clear both beams, its just the space that is take to clear the rear beam.
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MX793

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Also, the first Genesis Coupe 3.8 Edmunds tested was, IIRC, a pre-pro car that didn't have the final engine management tuning done on it.  The car would cut out between shifts due to the TCS (several other mags complained of the same in the earliest tests).  They tested a second 2010 3.8 and got 0-60 of 5.5s (w/ rollout, 5.9 w/out), which is right where the car should be.

http://www.insideline.com/mazda/mazdaspeed3/2010/comparison-test-2010-mazdaspeed-3-vs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html

Honestly, sporty, you dwell on that initial IL time like it's gospel when it is in fact THE worst time recorded for that car.  It's an outlier, superseded by ILs own later testing.  Your cherry-picking the worst time for the car, by large margin, is downright Cougsian.

IL's test of a '10 2.0T got 6.6s w/ rollout.  I can't even find where they've tested a '13 2.0T, so I'm not sure where you're quoting that they got the same time as the older car.
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MX793

Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 09, 2012, 04:29:34 PM
Oh, it's less than that I'd bet. 0.3s would be a very long roll out time.

Rollout isn't the eight inches it takes to clear both beams, its just the space that is take to clear the rear beam.

IL reports their rollout as being 1 ft.  And from their reviews (which often list both w/ and w/out rollout), they typically report 0.3-0.4s difference between them.  See the article I linked previously as an example.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: MX793 on June 09, 2012, 04:34:19 PM
IL reports their rollout as being 1 ft.  And from their reviews (which often list both w/ and w/out rollout), they typically report 0.3-0.4s difference between them.  See the article I linked previously as an example.
OK, I can see 1 ft= 0.3 seconds. it must be a slightly different setup than your standard dragstrip layout, which might give you 4-6 inches.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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