85mph limit on TX highway?

Started by Morris Minor, June 07, 2012, 06:57:52 AM

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The Secretary of State/DMV is afraid to tell Bubb Rubb and Li'l Sis that they need to ride the bus because they suck at driving. In typical government fashion, they'd probably just make drivers jump through hoops that wouldn't effectively weed out bad drivers anyway.

TurboDan

Quote from: Lebowski on June 07, 2012, 08:56:54 AM
Damn, I wish we had 85mph limits here.

Don't you live in the I4 corridor? You'll get run off the road if you ain't doing 90.  ;)

AutobahnSHO

Quote from: sportyaccordy on June 08, 2012, 07:42:09 AM
Speed limits should be raised but Americans need to be trained

I dont get why they dont go harder on training, its easy tax money

Actually, just make new drivers pay for the cost. And anyone with moving violations has to go back to school and pay.  Germany it's $1-2k for private driver's ed. And the government monitors/regulates, so plenty of jobs all around.
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Tave

Quote from: MX793 on June 07, 2012, 08:10:47 PM
IIRC, the Federal Gov't mandates 75 mph max or else they cut federal highway funding.  That's why Montana had to abandon their "prudent and reasonable" speed limit years ago and had to post actual speed limits.  This road in Texas is a toll road, meaning it's likely self-funded.

No, the Montana Supreme Court ruled "reasonable and prudent" unconstitutional. There were talks about the Feds cutting funding but the legislature wasn't going to do anything about it until the Court intervened. However, I believe the Fed was concerned that there was no limit at all, not that it was simply greater than 75 mph.

I was mistaken. Parts of I-10 and I-20 in West Texas are already set at 80 mph. I can't find info on I-20 but I-10 definitely doesn't have any tolls.
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Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

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Quote from: Northlands on June 08, 2012, 07:50:06 PM
I'm gonna put on my tin foil hat and spit out a conspiracy theory.

There's no money in good drivers.  :lol:

True dat; although "safety" is the stated reason, it's always about the money.

Witness the speed cameras that blanket the UK. When they were first put in 20-years-ago, the "margin of illegality" was set to about 10mph over before they'd snap a photo and go into action. So people slowed down and the revenues plummeted. Several constabularies then set the margin to just two or three mph to get cash flows to pick up again.

That's when people started necklacing them with gasoline-filled tires.
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2-3MPH is heinous. That's easily a speedometer margin of error.

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Here in Dubai the fixed speed cameras are exactly 20 kph over the limit. 100 on 80, 120 on 100 and 140 on 120 kph roads.

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Quote from: 2o6 on June 11, 2012, 07:07:24 AM
2-3MPH is heinous. That's easily a speedometer margin of error.

There is some kind of law or rule in Europe that the speedo must never show less then the actual driving speed, that's why all European cars show up to 10% more (in few cases) then the actual speed.

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2o6

Quote from: AltinD on June 11, 2012, 10:46:27 AM
There is some kind of law or rule in Europe that the speedo must never show less then the actual driving speed, that's why all European cars show up to 10% more (in few cases) then the actual speed.

That's an implausible rule, tires, rims and any sort of other variable can lop off speed and make the speedo read slightly off.

AltinD

Quote from: 2o6 on June 11, 2012, 01:20:58 PM
That's an implausible rule, tires, rims and any sort of other variable can lop off speed and make the speedo read slightly off.

That's exactly the reason. The speedo is configured to show correctly for the biggest set of wheels and tires that can physically installed on the vehicle.

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Vinsanity

Quote from: AltinD on June 11, 2012, 02:10:47 PM
That's exactly the reason. The speedo is configured to show correctly for the biggest set of wheels and tires that can physically installed on the vehicle.

Is that so?


Galaxy

Quote from: Vinsanity on June 11, 2012, 02:45:31 PM
Is that so?



That would not be legal, the allowable tire sizes are in the vehicle papers.

Vinsanity

Quote from: Galaxy on June 11, 2012, 02:51:23 PM
That would not be legal, the allowable tire sizes are in the vehicle papers.

Yurup...

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Quote from: MX793 on June 08, 2012, 11:13:43 AM
Maybe out west, but there are plenty of roads (interstates even) in the Northeast that aren't suited to much higher than 65 mph by virtue of the road condition (rough, potholes, poorly made patches of potholes...)

And people would slow down when they become uncomfortable.  If we can Pavlov train them to move right when they do that, we'd be all good.
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Quote from: Raza  on June 11, 2012, 03:03:03 PM
And people would slow down when they become uncomfortable.  If we can Pavlov train them to move right when they do that, we'd be all good.

The other day commuting home, interstate is 70mph and a whole herd of cars merged from onramp directly to the left lane. They were all doing about 60mph, coming from an awkward sweeping curve...

There is a different onramp that is straight as straight gets. I can get my poorly running Subie up to 80mph on it, only if I'm not stuck behind turds doing 55mph. And they dart over to the left lane also, even if there's no other traffic.
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shp4man

Some joker with an oil leaking, bald tired POS vehicle would push it up to 85 while texting his girlfriend, then the under-inflated tire(s) would blow out from overheating, he'd become a quadriplegic in the accident, sue the state for posting an unsafe speed limit and probably win.
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Quote from: Tave on June 10, 2012, 10:01:40 PM
No, the Montana Supreme Court ruled "reasonable and prudent" unconstitutional. There were talks about the Feds cutting funding but the legislature wasn't going to do anything about it until the Court intervened. However, I believe the Fed was concerned that there was no limit at all, not that it was simply greater than 75 mph.

I was mistaken. Parts of I-10 and I-20 in West Texas are already set at 80 mph. I can't find info on I-20 but I-10 definitely doesn't have any tolls.

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Quote from: AltinD on June 11, 2012, 02:10:47 PM
That's exactly the reason. The speedo is configured to show correctly for the biggest set of wheels and tires that can physically installed on the vehicle.


That makes no sense.

AltinD

Quote from: 2o6 on June 12, 2012, 03:05:59 PM

That makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense when the law says the speedometer must not display a lower speed then actually driven.

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2o6

Speedometers are calibrated from the factory for the wheels and tires they leave the factory on.

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Quote from: shp4man on June 11, 2012, 03:36:20 PM
Some joker with an oil leaking, bald tired POS vehicle would push it up to 85 while texting his girlfriend, then the under-inflated tire(s) would blow out from overheating, he'd become a quadriplegic in the accident, sue the state for posting an unsafe speed limit and probably win.
I'm getting damn cynical these days. :huh:

What an awesome court case movie that would make! :lol:
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Quote from: MX793 on June 07, 2012, 08:10:47 PM
IIRC, the Federal Gov't mandates 75 mph max or else they cut federal highway funding.  That's why Montana had to abandon their "prudent and reasonable" speed limit years ago and had to post actual speed limits.  This road in Texas is a toll road, meaning it's likely self-funded.

I believe stretches of I20 in West Texas have an 80 mph speed limit. I think the legislation was updated.