Honda Accord spied...

[2o6]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/07/2013-honda-accord-plug-in-hybrid-snapped-almost-completely-expos/


I predict a Civic-level disaster. The car looks like the old one, but with worse styling. All of its competitors have gone a full model change. Yet Honda really only does a glorified facelift?

[Laconian]

You do realize that the car won't be sold with that cladding, right?

[ifcar]

You can't tell from a car's styling what level of mechanical change has gone into it. Honda often keeps a similar-looking roofline even when they do a complete redesign. The Civic had the same shape from 1991 to 2005. And Honda's already announced major powertrain changes.

Also, that "disaster" is the best-selling car in its class.

[sportyaccordy]

Yea most companies would kill for that kind of disaster

[Northlands]

I can't really tell what this thing looks like. So, er... no opinion. 

[GoCougs]

Ha, ha, nice "all-new" Accord there Honda...

[CJ]

From what Jacob said (He was there when these photos were taken), it's substantially smaller than the current Accord. 

[2o6]

We will have to see when it's released; proportionally it looks exactly the same as the current car.

[AltinD]

Less front overhang, I think shorter boot too. These were the changes on the already released Thai market model.

[2o6]

To be fair, GM vehicles sold in strong numbers before their reputation was gradually destroyed by lower quality and uninspiring product.

[sportyaccordy]

To be fair, GM vehicles sold in strong numbers before their reputation was gradually destroyed by lower quality and uninspiring product.

Yea but the current Accord/Civic are hardly representative of the drops in quality/inspiration GM had. As "bad" as the new Civic is, I would prob still recommend one over an Elantra

[CALL_911]

Yea but the current Accord/Civic are hardly representative of the drops in quality/inspiration GM had. As "bad" as the new Civic is, I would prob still recommend one over an Elantra

Yeah, I wouldn't

[sportyaccordy]

Elantra is just as dull as a Civic, but w/o the good resale or solid reliability track. Not that its unreliable, but the Civic is more reliable for not much more $$$

[Atomic]

Best pics of the upcoming Accord to date. I like the sloping frontend and what look like a promising shape at the rear. Honda confirmed a sporty SE trim line, unlike the current SE Special Edition Accords and those typically added near the last quarter of some model years to boost summer sales. I bring this up seeing what looks to be a rear spoiler. It could be an add on to confuse prying eyes. If indeed a spoiling on its upcoming plug-in hybrid as the author claims, it is most likely a measure to increase aerodynamics. We shall see this fall.

Good find!

[MX793]

Elantra is just as dull as a Civic, but w/o the good resale or solid reliability track. Not that its unreliable, but the Civic is more reliable for not much more $$$

There is insufficient reliability data on the latest Elantra (nor the supposedly "all new" Civic) to definitively claim that one is more reliable than the other.

[ifcar]

Elantra is just as dull as a Civic, but w/o the good resale or solid reliability track. Not that its unreliable, but the Civic is more reliable for not much more $$$

Meh, the last two Civic generations had spotty quality at launch -- both 2001 and 2006. Reputation is fine when you're talking about a used car with a proven record, but don't confuse the quality of a particular car with the quality of past cars with the same name.

[TurboDan]

I don't think it looks bad. And it'll sell like crazy. Most Accord drivers just replace their old Accord with a new one. Same goes with Camry. These core buyers aren't particularly adventurous in their vehicle choices. But like I said, I don't know what the complaints are all about. The Accord isn't a car Honda will take chances with, nor should they. And these photos don't look bad at all to me, to be honest.

Are they re-doing the coupe too? I've always really liked the coupe version the last few generations.

[Atomic]

Yes. The coupe will benefit for all of the Accord sedan's changes, aside perhaps from the addition of the hybrid variant (trunk to be more curvaceous on the two door), thus more difficult to add hybrid technology and keep the relatively roomy truck of Accord coupe, both past and present.

There is expected to be a Venza type spin off model, too, and/or a wagon (a worthier Crosstour) to take on the Subaru Outback. Honda is very secretive, but some Accord info, including some changes to trim levels and smaller exterior specs have been released. Other than that, I have not seen where the rumors of the Accord platform being the basis for those other models (wagon, crossover) have been confirmed by Honda brass. However, it does make perfect sense.

[ifcar]

The Crosstour isn't changing any time soon. The upcoming 2013 model just has a tweaked grille and bumper.

[sportyaccordy]

There is insufficient reliability data on the latest Elantra (nor the supposedly "all new" Civic) to definitively claim that one is more reliable than the other.

Elantra's got a lot of new tech + major parts

I dont think anything is new on the Civic

Youre right that theres not enough data. But being that the old Civic wasnt problematic, and the new one is pretty much the old one, you can make a decent guess IMO

[Atomic]

Elantra's got a lot of new tech + major parts

I dont think anything is new on the Civic

Youre right that theres not enough data. But being that the old Civic wasnt problematic, and the new one is pretty much the old one, you can make a decent guess IMO

Yes. I agree, too. There is a trade off, I think. A lot of new technology and bells and whistles vs. what is tried and true. The sales figures are impressive for both companies doing their own thing.

[Atomic]

You can't tell from a car's styling what level of mechanical change has gone into it. Honda often keeps a similar-looking roofline even when they do a complete redesign. The Civic had the same shape from 1991 to 2005. And Honda's already announced major powertrain changes.

Also, that "disaster" is the best-selling car in its class.

So true, Iffy! What other companies wouldn't do to achieve such a disaster -- especially with all but <2% of all sales being non-fleet retail purchases. A few more spy pics...

These, I think are non-hybrid Accord models... Shown as apart of the following collection... of C&D pics. Yes. These are heavily camouflaged Accords with a lot left to the imagination, but still telling, I think...

2013 Honda Accord's caught during testing...

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2013-honda-accord-sedan-and-coupe-spy-photos-news

2013 Honda Accord information (some may have seen before), with another look at the '13 Accord Coupe concept...

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2013-honda-accord-future-cars

[Raza]

From what Jacob said (He was there when these photos were taken), it's substantially smaller than the current Accord. 

How could it not be?  The current Accord is ridiculously large.  If it got any bigger, it would be a plane. 

[sportyaccordy]

How could it not be?  The current Accord is ridiculously large.  If it got any bigger, it would be a plane.  

One of my cousins has an Avalon. A few of my buddies had the 04-08 Maxima. Hell even the 02-06 Altima was comically large inside. But still not wide enough to legitimately seat 3 adults in the rear.

Avalon could though, easily. One thing I don't get is why FWD cars still have center humps in the floor. Esp w/close coupled cats. Put the cats at the header, 1st muffler under the dash, all the other shit under the trunk. Anyway...

[2o6]

One of my cousins has an Avalon. A few of my buddies had the 04-08 Maxima. Hell even the 02-06 Altima was comically large inside. But still not wide enough to legitimately seat 3 adults in the rear.

Avalon could though, easily. One thing I don't get is why FWD cars still have center humps in the floor. Esp w/close coupled cats. Put the cats at the header, 1st muffler under the dash, all the other shit under the trunk. Anyway...

Structural rigidity.

[Cookie Monster]

Structural rigidity.

wat

[2o6]

wat

IIRC, that has always been the reason. Curving the metal in the middle makes it stiffer than a flexible piece of steel.

[hotrodalex]

It provides a little bit of rigidity, but can also provide a place to run the exhaust or other lines (electrical wiring, fuel lines, etc.)

[Soup DeVille]

wat

He's right.

[Atomic]

One of my cousins has an Avalon. A few of my buddies had the 04-08 Maxima. Hell even the 02-06 Altima was comically large inside. But still not wide enough to legitimately seat 3 adults in the rear.

Avalon could though, easily. One thing I don't get is why FWD cars still have center humps in the floor. Esp w/close coupled cats. Put the cats at the header, 1st muffler under the dash, all the other shit under the trunk. Anyway...

My mother's 2010 Honda Civic EX sedan (with under 2,000 miles, BTW!) has a totally flat floor in the back. Three in the rear is not comfortable in even the largest of cars, but for a compact, the Civic is certainly not bad at carrying five people in a pinch. We had three in the back to travel to and from a wedding about an hour away. It was far more comfortable the the rear (no pun intended... Lol) than I had thought. Still, I would never subject any three adults to the backseat unless for a very short distance.