Passed my T?V inspection!

[cawimmer430]

Had my T?V inspection today early in the morning. Zero problems or defects on the car. Everything works fine and is within tolerances. My cars emissions were also within acceptable limits. The technician even checked my radio to make sure it was working. Um, ok...  

I only got a warning regarding my tires that I need to replace them ASAP. The technician thinks I can still use them until the winter and then I need new summer tires. My summer tires are so used up. I'm amazed they didn't fine me.  

Some crappy pictures of the T?V inspection...

Technician inside the car checking cockpit functions...



This is located at the entrance to the shop. I think here they test that the engine is making the claimed horsepower...you know, for merging unto a freeway and shit like that.  



Checking underneath the car...



Something you don't see on a modern compact today: RWD, baby, RWD! Somewhere on the Internet, a car enthusiast is reading this and getting a boner!!! Check out all that aluminum underneath my car!




The blue sticker was glued over the old green sticker. Obtaining this sticker means I passed the T?V and emissions. I'll be seeing these suckers in two years again! This is BMWNESS! I recommend that 2o6 brings his Yaris to the T?V so they can give it a proper inspection!  

[TurboDan]

In my state they now only check for emissions. They got rid of the safety checks (lights working, horn working, cracked windshield, tire condition, etc.) a couple years ago because it was too expensive to pay the technicians required for more thorough checks. Going just to the emissions will save the state $17 million per year.

The emissions checks are just another scam, though. It's required to get certain highway funding. Some U.S. states (the smart ones) refused the federal funds. IMO the safety check was more valuable, yet that has gone away and now we only have the BS emissions nonsense.

[GoCougs]

Scary.

[Mustangfan2003]

I had to get a state inspection a while back since my sticker expired over a year ago.  The shop are required to check your horn, lights, and windshield but the guy doing it just checked my license and put on a new sticker after I paid him 5 bucks

[2o6]

Scary.

DO NOT ENGAGE

[AutobahnSHO]

Scary.

DO NOT ENGAGE

Your warning is as bad as his trolling.. 

Scarier than requiring safety inspections is the US areas that require half-ass safety inspections or the areas where they say, "meh! who cares?!"

I'd much rather have an attitude like the "germany after crash"- police measure tire depth, look at suspension, etc... and will write tickets for unsafe vehicles- even if the other guy caused the crash...

[TurboDan]

DO NOT ENGAGE

LOL. I actually typed out an entire response, and just deleted it and went to a new thread. It ain't worth it. I'm not down for an Internet war of attrition after a full Saturday night's worth of alcohol...

[Soup DeVille]

Your warning is as bad as his trolling.. 

Scarier than requiring safety inspections is the US areas that require half-ass safety inspections or the areas where they say, "meh! who cares?!"

I'd much rather have an attitude like the "germany after crash"- police measure tire depth, look at suspension, etc... and will write tickets for unsafe vehicles- even if the other guy caused the crash...

Germany's situation is far different than ours here in the US, so i won't comment on that.

Here though, there is no statistical difference measured in any way that shows that states with a safety inspection are any safer than those without one.

And no, I don't wish to argue with Cougs about this one either (because I'll end up siding with him more than disagreeing)

[cawimmer430]

The government is thinking of making the T?V mandatory ONCE A YEAR for cars that are over seven years old. And this new T?V will also include a technician who will drive your car for at least 8 km and abuse the shit out of it to see if everything is working fine. So let me get this straight. I have to pay an organization money to waste my gas just so I can get a sticker that allows me to drive my car for another year before I have to do the same shit again?

Seriously, what are these politicians smoking?

The current T?V is completely fine as it is. No need to fucking exaggerate...  

Oh yeah, and the cost of my T?V was 82,50 Euros. Expensive shit.

I'm all for this as it makes the cars on our road safer, but every year? No thanks.

[GoCougs]

Jesus, "scary" isn't nearly strongly enough of a term.

[2o6]

The government is thinking of making the T?V mandatory ONCE A YEAR for cars that are over seven years old. And this new T?V will also include a technician who will drive your car for at least 8 km and abuse the shit out of it to see if everything is working fine. So let me get this straight. I have to pay an organization money to waste my gas just so I can get a sticker that allows me to drive my car for another year before I have to do the same shit again?

Seriously, what are these politicians smoking?

The current T?V is completely fine as it is. No need to fucking exaggerate...  

Oh yeah, and the cost of my T?V was 82,50 Euros. Expensive shit.

I'm all for this as it makes the cars on our road safer, but every year? No thanks.

What did I say about not engaging?

[GoCougs]

The government is thinking of making the T?V mandatory ONCE A YEAR for cars that are over seven years old. And this new T?V will also include a technician who will drive your car for at least 8 km and abuse the shit out of it to see if everything is working fine. So let me get this straight. I have to pay an organization money to waste my gas just so I can get a sticker that allows me to drive my car for another year before I have to do the same shit again?

Seriously, what are these politicians smoking?

The current T?V is completely fine as it is. No need to fucking exaggerate... 

Oh yeah, and the cost of my T?V was 82,50 Euros. Expensive shit.

I'm all for this as it makes the cars on our road safer, but every year? No thanks.

Is this country wide or do inspection procedures differ by state?

[Colin]

The British MoT test is an annual event, and it costs ?50 (approx)...... got tougher over the years, especially on things like emissions. Originally it was introduced to get real rust buckets with worn out smokey engines and non-operative brakes off the roads. Recently the Government decided that cars built before 1960 will no longer need to undergo it.

Given the number of motorists who can be arsed to check whether their tyres are inflated and still have tread on them, let alone anything else, I reckon an annual check is not a bad idea!

[cawimmer430]

What did I say about not engaging?

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[cawimmer430]

Is this country wide or do inspection procedures differ by state?

All over Germany it's pretty much the same deal and structure.

A new car needs to go to the T?V after three years. Once it has absolved its first T?V, it has to be checked every two years.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%9CV

[Madman]

A few weeks ago, there was a discussion on LBC radio about a proposal to make the UK MOT test a once-every-two-year affair.  The people backing the plan (sorry, I can't remember who, specifically) claimed doing it every year is unnecessary and going to a two year test would bring the UK in line with the rest of Europe.  Germany's T?V test was constantly being brought up as an example.

Interestingly, most callers into the programme were in favour of keeping the once a year MOT, expressing safety concerns.

[AutobahnSHO]

A lot can happen to a car in 2 years, or even a week.

I'd rather the cops start montoring burnt taillights/turn signals, and if there is a wreck, check tire depth and the other few 'basics'.

Utah requires annual safety inspections so guess where it's cheap to buy used cars? (just over the border in Wyoming of course..) At least they're only $10. (or at least they were in 1999..)

[sportyaccordy]

I dont get the argument against inspections

UK just changed their licensing system for bikes. They limit the displacement people can get until they turn 24. Folks went into a rage on a forum I'm on. "LICENSES ARE STUPID, INFRINGEMENT ON OUR FREEDOMS"... newsflash, if you operate a motor vehicle on public roads, you are subject to public requirements. People bitch about anything

[TurboDan]

The British MoT test is an annual event, and it costs £50 (approx)...... got tougher over the years, especially on things like emissions. Originally it was introduced to get real rust buckets with worn out smokey engines and non-operative brakes off the roads. Recently the Government decided that cars built before 1960 will no longer need to undergo it.

Given the number of motorists who can be arsed to check whether their tyres are inflated and still have tread on them, let alone anything else, I reckon an annual check is not a bad idea!

In New Jersey, there is no charge for the inspection if you go to one of the state-owned inspection stations. If you go to a private garage licensed to do inspections it's $50. New Jersey gives you four years on a new car, then it's every two years after that. It used to be required every year, but the lines at the inspection stations were so long that cars were overheating, causing traffic jams, etc.

Granted, some people simply don't have their cars inspected. Or if they fail an inspection and the repair is too costly, they'll just ignore it and pay the traffic tickets whenever they get them. I know someone whose check engine light is on, cannot afford the repair (it's the ECU) and cannot afford a new car. So he just drives with his old sticker. Not much else one can do, really.

[GoCougs]

In New Jersey, there is no charge for the inspection if you go to one of the state-owned inspection stations. If you go to a private garage licensed to do inspections it's $50. New Jersey gives you four years on a new car, then it's every two years after that. It used to be required every year, but the lines at the inspection stations were so long that cars were overheating, causing traffic jams, etc.

Granted, some people simply don't have their cars inspected. Or if they fail an inspection and the repair is too costly, they'll just ignore it and pay the traffic tickets whenever they get them. I know someone whose check engine light is on, cannot afford the repair (it's the ECU) and cannot afford a new car. So he just drives with his old sticker. Not much else one can do, really.

Really? You mean government action doesn't change behavior???

[Soup DeVille]

I dont get the argument against inspections

UK just changed their licensing system for bikes. They limit the displacement people can get until they turn 24. Folks went into a rage on a forum I'm on. "LICENSES ARE STUPID, INFRINGEMENT ON OUR FREEDOMS"... newsflash, if you operate a motor vehicle on public roads, you are subject to public requirements. People bitch about anything

To be fair, folks in the UK don't have many freedoms left to fight for.

[TurboDan]

Really? You mean government action doesn't change behavior???

Well, it makes an otherwise law abiding citizen into a scofflaw...

[Madman]

To be fair, folks in the UK don't have many freedoms left to fight for.

Hyperbole much? 

[Onslaught]

I did inspections in NC when I was in High School. You would not believe how many people drive around with tires that have chunks of steel belt hanging out of them. I pulled one girls 300Z into the shop onetime that was almost undrivable the tires had got to that point. She had no idea that was the reason the car was driving that way. Others have massive holes in their exhaust that could leak into the car when it's sitting.  Most of these people appreciated and had an interest in know the cars needed something done to them making them safer. The average person isn't like us and they don't know jack nor shit about cars. And I don't want some idiot slamming into my car on the interstate because they had no idea that all 4 tires are two years past needing replacement.

[sportyaccordy]

I did inspections in NC when I was in High School. You would not believe how many people drive around with tires that have chunks of steel belt hanging out of them. I pulled one girls 300Z into the shop onetime that was almost undrivable the tires had got to that point. She had no idea that was the reason the car was driving that way. Others have massive holes in their exhaust that could leak into the car when it's sitting.  Most of these people appreciated and had an interest in know the cars needed something done to them making them safer. The average person isn't like us and they don't know jack nor shit about cars. And I don't want some idiot slamming into my car on the interstate because they had no idea that all 4 tires are two years past needing replacement.

BUT THE GOVERNMENT

Yea, def wanna share the road with folks in cars like this

http://jalopnik.com/5924130/how-was-anyone-driving-this-ridiculously-unsafe-car-on-the-highway/gallery/1?tag=carcrime

[GoCougs]

BUT THE GOVERNMENT

Yea, def wanna share the road with folks in cars like this

http://jalopnik.com/5924130/how-was-anyone-driving-this-ridiculously-unsafe-car-on-the-highway/gallery/1?tag=carcrime

Are you sure this is a true story? The driver didn't have a license and the car was surely neither registered nor insured - the benevolent state is very clear on these three topics - no license + no registration + no insurance = no driving.

(Does logic dictate that a person who would drive such a POS, especially with no license, registration and insurance, is going to comply with a yearly/biannual inspection?)

[GoCougs]

I did inspections in NC when I was in High School. You would not believe how many people drive around with tires that have chunks of steel belt hanging out of them. I pulled one girls 300Z into the shop onetime that was almost undrivable the tires had got to that point. She had no idea that was the reason the car was driving that way. Others have massive holes in their exhaust that could leak into the car when it's sitting.  Most of these people appreciated and had an interest in know the cars needed something done to them making them safer. The average person isn't like us and they don't know jack nor shit about cars. And I don't want some idiot slamming into my car on the interstate because they had no idea that all 4 tires are two years past needing replacement.

All true. However, how often do equipment problems contribute to or cause crashes? My hunch is it's relatively low, and is vastly outdone by issues such as DUI, distracted driving, and falling asleep at the wheel (data is showing the latter is almost as bad as DUI FWIW).

[sportyaccordy]

Are you sure this is a true story?

Lol

All true. However, how often do equipment problems contribute to or cause crashes? My hunch is it's relatively low, and is vastly outdone by issues such as DUI, distracted driving, and falling asleep at the wheel (data is showing the latter is almost as bad as DUI FWIW).

Just cause its not the top cause of crashes doesnt mean minimizing equipment caused crashes aren't an endeavor worth pursuing

Bald tires, bad brakes, snapped balljoints/tie rod ends, you really don't think any of that would compromise a car's safety?

[Onslaught]

All true. However, how often do equipment problems contribute to or cause crashes? My hunch is it's relatively low, and is vastly outdone by issues such as DUI, distracted driving, and falling asleep at the wheel (data is showing the latter is almost as bad as DUI FWIW).

I have no doubt that DWI and the other things you listed account for more crashes. I just don't see the big deal in having an inspection either. If you're there to have the emissions test done (that is a good thing) then having a look at your tires and other stuff isn't a big deal.

I think some of you people take anti Government stuff too far.

[GoCougs]

I have no doubt that DWI and the other things you listed account for more crashes. I just don't see the big deal in having an inspection either. If you're there to have the emissions test done (that is a good thing) then having a look at your tires and other stuff isn't a big deal.

I think some of you people take anti Government stuff too far.

Government inspection is never a good thing and not only because it doesn't work too well. Any benefit is vastly outweighed by the creation of a system of corruption, bloat and power. The only proper avenue (i.e., most effective) is what Will suggested - punishment for material result for violation, or spot-inspection as during a traffic stop. I would also add that increased punishment for such offenses is a must (a HUGE problem with traffic enforcement in the US).

I will acquiesce to some extent that when America gets back to its fundamental roots in morality (= roads are not owned by government) there would likely be an inspection procedure of some sort; just as I have to have my bike inspected before a race or an NCAA football player has to submit to a physical.