GT-R: One and Done?

[sportyaccordy]

Lol this char guy, I am getting to like him

And if the GT-R goes, good riddance. Just another "lap times and magazine test #s over pretty much everything else" car w/performance you can't even begin to tap into outside of a track.

[Atomic]

MX793,

Awesome pics and reminder of the evolution of the Infiniti G sedan/I30. I had forgotten about the first two "quick to market" Nissan knockoffs (especially the Maxi based model). Other luxury truck and car offerings often start off that way, like the first generation Caddy Escalade (far more Chevy/GMC truck like in appearance at first and I think the first generation Ford Expedition derived Lincoln Navi, too).

I was smitten with the idea of buying an Infiniti (G20, I30) opposed to another new Nissan Maxima until I test drove each back that and felt the Maxi was a far better value, especially compared with the not-so-different and less attractive (IMO) that its Nissan counterpart. The customer service of Infiniti vs. Nissan was a consideration, but how often do you need customer service -- hopefully, only at time of purchase.

What I was absolutely insane over was the Infiniti J30. Remember that sleek offering of its day? At least I loved it. Lol  One cool car for a Nissan Maxima SE enthusiast thinking of moving up within the corporation.

I think I have my "letters" paired with the appropriate "numbers for those G's, I's, G's... If not, let me know...

Great thread, BTW!

[Raza]

Lol this char guy, I am getting to like him

And if the GT-R goes, good riddance. Just another "lap times and magazine test #s over pretty much everything else" car w/performance you can't even begin to tap into outside of a track.

Like every Ferrari, Lamborghini, the M3, M5, M6, all AMGs, all _35i BMWs, and many, many others. 

[Atomic]

SVT666, Two models that I absolutely love are the Infiniti EX AWD and FX AWD crossover/SUV models. Some chaim the EX could benefit from more cargo space. That might be the case, but I would rather have its sleek design than having it offer more room in the "way back" at the cost of its styling for my needs. The FX is fantastic.

My neighbor had this hot burnt orange FX that he just traded in on Saturday for a 2012 silver Honda Crosstour. Why I asked? He reply, "the cost of tire..." Plus his wife "scraped the hell out of all massive and costly four wheels..." She obviously is a lousy parker. He also purchased a new vehicle for her at the same time, a MY12 Honda Pilot. He had an older Honda CR-V.

I like the X-Tour, but it is certainly no Infiniti FX. So glad I am single, and mighty happily single at that 

[Char]

You're welcome to like subpar products like the Sentra and Versa, but nothing the brand builds really excites me anymore.

[sportyaccordy]

Like every Ferrari, Lamborghini, the M3, M5, M6, all AMGs, all _35i BMWs, and many, many others.  

Nobody says "why would I get this, when I could get a Ferrari/Lambo that outperforms this for less $$$"
M3 and M5 give 90-95% of GT-R performance, but can actually carry 4 people and some of their stuff
Old M6 had soul, current one I kind of agree.
AMGs dont sound like vacuum cleaners, and again combine blistering performance with luxury and practicality for the same/LESS money than the GT-R.
_35i performance is a little much for the street, but nowhere near as useless as the GT-R's breadth, and in any case you don't sacrifice anything for said performance like you do with the GT-R. _35 cars are still completely practical, economical to run, and low maintenance in comparison with the GT-R.

GT-R was a good exercise but I think you can do much better for an engaging driving experience for the money. I would take a "slow" 911 Carrera over the GT-R 10 times out of 10.

[SVT666]

You're welcome to like subpar products like the Sentra and Versa, but nothing the brand builds really excites me anymore.

No, I'm rolling my eyes at your assertion that the G is too heavy and too expensive.  You've obviously never driven one.  I own a G37xS and it is by no means too heavy or even close to being overpriced.  In fact, it's priced much better than it's German competition and is just as good in most categories, better in some, and nearly as good in others.  To me it's the better car and it cost less to boot.

[Char]

Nobody says "why would I get this, when I could get a Ferrari/Lambo that outperforms this for less $$$"
M3 and M5 give 90-95% of GT-R performance, but can actually carry 4 people and some of their stuff
Old M6 had soul, current one I kind of agree.
AMGs dont sound like vacuum cleaners, and again combine blistering performance with luxury and practicality for the same/LESS money than the GT-R.
_35i performance is a little much for the street, but nowhere near as useless as the GT-R's breadth, and in any case you don't sacrifice anything for said performance like you do with the GT-R. _35 cars are still completely practical, economical to run, and low maintenance in comparison with the GT-R.

GT-R was a good exercise but I think you can do much better for an engaging driving experience for the money. I would take a "slow" 911 Carrera over the GT-R 10 times out of 10.

Lol, no M3 or M5 is giving you 90% of the GTR's performance. That said, I am a big BMW fan, but I'm an even bigger GT-R fan. There is no comparison.

[Char]

No, I'm rolling my eyes at your assertion that the G is too heavy and too expensive.  You've obviously never driven one.  I own a G37xS and it is by no means too heavy or even close to being overpriced.  In fact, it's priced much better than it's German competition and is just as good in most categories, better in some, and nearly as good in others.  To me it's the better car and it cost less to boot.

And that's your opinion and you're welcome to have it. I feel that the G37s at 3700lb is too heavy, so heavy that it's barely any quicker than the previous G35 coupe with a 30hp advantage. And yes I drove one, and yes it's nice. It may be the right choice for you, but obviously not everyone.

[MrH]

Besides the GT-R, Nissan hasn't built anything I wanted for years, including the G and the Z. Too heavy and too expensive relative to other cars that offer better performance.

I agree with him.  Not sure why you're rolling your eyes

[SVT666]

I agree with him.  Not sure why you're rolling your eyes

Obviously I'm rolling my eyes because I disagree with him.  I disagree with him enough that I spoke with my pocketbook and bought a G37.

[MrH]

Lol, no M3 or M5 is giving you 90% of the GTR's performance. That said, I am a big BMW fan, but I'm an even bigger GT-R fan. There is no comparison.

And that's your opinion and you're welcome to have it. I feel that the G37s at 3700lb is too heavy, so heavy that it's barely any quicker than the previous G35 coupe with a 30hp advantage. And yes I drove one, and yes it's nice. It may be the right choice for you, but obviously not everyone.

+juan

[Raza]

Eh, all Japanese cars suck (except some Subarus and Hondas), but Nissans do seem to suck the hardest. 

[sportyaccordy]

Eh, all Japanese cars suck (except some Subarus and Hondas), but Nissans do seem to suck the hardest. 

A 2006 Grand Touring 350ZR would be pretty sweet.

[Raza]

And did I buy the 350ZR?  No, I drove it and realized the best Japanese car in the last 10 years actually sucked.  Great on paper, terrible on road. 

[Char]

And did I buy the 350ZR?  No, I drove it and realized the best Japanese car in the last 10 years actually sucked.  Great on paper, terrible on road. 

What?

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Lol, no M3 or M5 is giving you 90% of the GTR's performance. That said, I am a big BMW fan, but I'm an even bigger GT-R fan. There is no comparison.

 

[GoCougs]

Besides the GT-R, Nissan hasn't built anything I wanted for years, including the G and the Z. Too heavy and too expensive relative to other cars that offer better performance.

I'm not interested in much of what Nissan builds either. The only cars are the GT-R, the G sedan, maybe the Z. I don't agree on the G sedan; it's second in the class in overall performance (and barely so) only to the 335i (but with much better reliability); it's also the cheapest (esp. against the competition's performance models/packages - 335i, TL-SH AWD, IS350). True it's really only a Nissan (first developed and sold as the SkylineXXXGT in Japan) but it's the best car Nissan builds and an overall fantastic car. (I'm biased of course, having bought a G37x sedan in March after an exhaustive search.)

[GoCougs]

No, I'm rolling my eyes at your assertion that the G is too heavy and too expensive.  You've obviously never driven one.  I own a G37xS and it is by no means too heavy or even close to being overpriced.  In fact, it's priced much better than it's German competition and is just as good in most categories, better in some, and nearly as good in others.  To me it's the better car and it cost less to boot.

The G37x is heavy though, weighing in at 3,850 lbs. IIRC, heaviest in class by 100 lbs. The G37 sedan ain't too bad though, and class average, at 3,625. However, in context, the whole "too heavy" battle cry is abjectly rejectible simply owing to the absence of a yet-to-be-seen cogent premise.

[Lebowski]

I'd make exception for the G but yeah no Nissan products but that and the GT-R interests me. And I wouldn't buy a GT-R, even though I find it interesting.

[SVT666]

I'd make exception for the G but yeah no Nissan products but that and the GT-R interests me. And I wouldn't buy a GT-R, even though I find it interesting.

The G is the only Nissan product I'm even remotely interested in, and I love it so much I bought it.

[sportyaccordy]

And did I buy the 350ZR?  No, I drove it and realized the best Japanese car in the last 10 years actually sucked.  Great on paper, terrible on road.  

So now the Z is a better car than the S2K? RX-8? STi? EVO? GT-R? LF-A? Lol.

[Raza]

What?

About a month ago I had convinced myself that I was going to buy a Nissan 350Z roadster.  Then I drove it and realized it was actually quite poor to drive, due to unnecessarily high effort steering with little feel, a terrible clutch and poor shifter, and an extremely light, touchy, and oversensitive throttle.  And a distinct lack of excitement.

[Raza]

So now the Z is a better car than the S2K? RX-8? STi? EVO? GT-R? LF-A? Lol.

So I see my plan to rile you up worked.

I'd have to drive all of them.  I recall the RX-8 being pretty good and the Evo being very good, but the STi was kind of dull in normal driving.  And two seconds ago you were talking about cars that were so fast you can never use them and good riddance if they go away, and then you mention the GT-R and LFA and Evo and STi, all of which are way too fast for normal roads.

I should amend my statement, though.  In general, Japanese cars suck, with a few exceptions. 

[Char]

So I see my plan to rile you up worked.

I'd have to drive all of them.  I recall the RX-8 being pretty good and the Evo being very good, but the STi was kind of dull in normal driving.  And two seconds ago you were talking about cars that were so fast you can never use them and good riddance if they go away, and then you mention the GT-R and LFA and Evo and STi, all of which are way too fast for normal roads.

I should amend my statement, though.  In general, Japanese cars suck, with a few exceptions. 

You won't win me over with that type of talk. I abhor VW, but even I believe they have their place.

[Raza]

You won't win me over with that type of talk. I abhor VW, but even I believe they have their place.

Who said I was trying to win you over?

[Cookie Monster]

Who said I was trying to win you over?

[280Z Turbo]

Like every Ferrari, Lamborghini, the M3, M5, M6, all AMGs, all _35i BMWs, and many, many others. 

I'm not really interested in those cars either.

[Lebowski]

The G is the only Nissan product I'm even remotely interested in, and I love it so much I bought it.

If I were shopping in that category, I would seriously consider the G. Would be a tough choice between that and the 3er. But the G is literally the only Nissan product I can say that about. Even the GT-R, I like it but wouldn't buy it over the alternatives even though it's awesome on paper.

[SVT666]

If I were shopping in that category, I would seriously consider the G. Would be a tough choice between that and the 3er. But the G is literally the only Nissan product I can say that about. Even the GT-R, I like it but wouldn't buy it over the alternatives even though it's awesome on paper.

I agree.  In the GT-R price range I would honestly get an Audi R8.